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To: Alan Smithee who wrote (227679)	11/11/2007 10:04:17 PM
From: DMaA	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 793677

Legal experts, please weigh in - it seems the word shall in laws doesn't necessarily mean must: http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Shall+and+will shall v. 1) an imperative command as in "you shall not kill." 2) in some statutes, "shall" is a direction but does not mean mandatory, depending on the context.

To: Alan Smithee who wrote (227679)	11/12/2007 6:22:30 AM
From: unclewest	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793677

Not that I particularly want to support Obama in this, because I believe it is appropriate for everyone, and particularly a presidential candidate to place hand on heart during the national anthem, but... If you don't mind, I am going to delete the last word in that sentence and stand with you on the issue. Some military protocols are based on the US Code. Others are based on historical precedence and common practice. The Commander in Chief of the American Armed Forces had best know both or risk ridicule. Obama is still rookie raw. He needs more seasoning. One more year won't be enough.

To: Alan Smithee who wrote (227679)	11/12/2007 3:37:05 PM
From: ig	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793677

§171. Conduct during playing Persons in uniform should render the military salute at the first note of the anthem and retain this position until the last note. Here's a video of Lieutenant General Edward P. Barry, Jr. (white-haired and uniformed, visible on the right of the screen) and Master Sergeant Abel P. Castillo (standing next to the General, also visible) conducting themselves not quite according to Code (or so it seems to me) while the Anthem is being (beautifully!) sung in the presence of the Flag: youtube.com