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To: combjelly who wrote (358159)11/12/2007 7:45:12 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 1574679
 
I only gave the full data for the UK, but I mentioned 2 others that have lower suicide and homicide rates. All 3 are reasonably large countries (unlike the Scandinavian countries, which all added together have about as many people as the New York metro area), and all 3 are probably closer to the US average in terms of diet and genetics than Japan is to either those countries or the US. And importantly none of the three are outliers on suicide like Japan.

In addition to those three countries I used one of the examples you gave that had a higher suicide rate than the US, Germany, and showed how when you include auto-accidents and suicide that Germany is really an example that supports my contention.

Outside of Japan I don't think there is a single large country (in terms of population) that has a noticeably life expectancy than the US, and that has a higher combined suicide, homicide, and auto-accident rate.

And even Japan is pretty close.

                United States     Japan

Suicide Rate 11 24
Homicide Rate 5.9 0.5
Auto death rate aprox. 15 about 7

Totals (aprox.) 30.9 31.5


So even the extreme outlier among rich countries in terms of suicide has a similar total combined rate.

And that's not considering non auto accidents where the US has a higher rate than Japan.

The US had 113K accidental deaths in 2005. The US has about 300 million people. It had a bit less in 2005, but I'll use 300 million to be conservative and because its a nice easy number. 300 million is 3,000 groups of 100K. That's a fatal accident rate of 37.6.

For some reason I'm having a very hard time getting the overall accidental death rate, or accidental death totals (from which the rate can easily be calculated). But the US rate is higher. I've seen stats about it previously. Also I've presented the data that auto accident death rates are much higher in the US, and this Australian publication shows that child accidental death rates in the US are higher than Japan.

US 13.3 - Japan 8.0
abs.gov.au@.nsf/2f762f95845417aeca25706c00834efa/1e41688cb7c8b15dca2570ec0073d9e9!OpenDocument

And the US has a higher accidental death rate from fire -

"A little digging around has revelead that the death rate from accidental fires in the USA is 2 to 3 times higher than in Japan, at least according to the National Fire Protection Association of the US, and you'd think that they know what their talking about.

nfpa.org;

japantoday.com

And its well known that the US has a higher accidental death rate from firearms than Japan.

And there is this - "According to the World Health Organization, the America's accidental death rate is considerably higher than Japan's"

losangelescala.org