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To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (248563)	11/15/2007 6:21:33 PM
From: one_less	Respond to of 281500

"Moqty's 2004 insurrection in Najaf was crushed by the Americans. " Crushed you say, back when they were a few hundred strong. OK, maybe he is a nobody as you suggest or was at one time. Back then, I predicted the re-emergence of him and the Al-Mahdi force and stated that it should be taken serious. Me a few years back: "When/if we have to deal with the Al-Mahdi army, it will make our struggle with Al-Quaida look like a kindergardener’s camp." He is the undisputed leader of the Al-Mahdis. The Al-Mahdi force has continually gone to the shadows with assurances from people like you that they are being neutralized, only to re-emerge months later at a strength in multiples of the previous version (last estimated at 60k+) Now they are being elected into power and infiltrating the Iraq military (estimated 18K). "He only survived because the Brits in their infinite wisdom, did a backhand deal that allowed him to escape. Hellooooooooo... Muktada made a commitment to Sistani at that time to let us rebuild Iraq and then take it over from within, quietly and via his shadow organizations. "This is not any kind of ascendant path, ... Now Maliki's success and course of actions are subject to approval from Muktada. "It wasn't America which killed the al Sadrs, it was Saddam." It was a major influence to forming his current persona but not the only one. He is an extremist when it comes to genocidal removal of Sunni enemies and Shia rivals. He has had no hesitation in declaring America as a common enemy to all, and the Al-Mahdis as the future conquerers and rulers of the World. "This is not any kind of ascendant path," Ok. I give you the last word for today. Take care, gem

To: Nadine Carroll who wrote (248563)	11/15/2007 7:08:35 PM
From: SARMAN	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

Nadine, why don't you stop your foolishness. You blame the problem in ME on anyone except the real culprits. Israel and the US. You keep blaming the Iranians yet the US was propping Saddam and allowing him to kill the Kurds and others who opposed him. Why? Because he was toeing the US' line. Why do you always fail to mention these things? Hmmm. Al Sadr is pissed off at America because America supported Saddam's regime and actually allowed Saddam to crush the Shiias when they tried to revolt against Saddam just after "Desert Storm". I remember Bush Senior telling the Iraqis that they should change the regime from within. I guess you have a selective amnesia. The funny thing is Israel want the US to fight the Iranians. It will be a suicide for the US. We have seen the body bags of American returning home to be buried. I do not believe that the American people is willing to pay a high price to please Israel.