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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (358867)11/16/2007 7:20:58 AM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 1571785
 
Played for a Sucker
PAUL KRUGMAN
Lately, Barack Obama has been saying that major action is needed to avert what he keeps calling a “crisis” in Social Security — most recently in an interview with The National Journal. Progressives who fought hard and successfully against the Bush administration’s attempt to panic America into privatizing the New Deal’s crown jewel are outraged, and rightly so.

But Mr. Obama’s Social Security mistake was, in fact, exactly what you’d expect from a candidate who promises to transcend partisanship in an age when that’s neither possible nor desirable.

To understand the nature of Mr. Obama’s mistake, you need to know something about the special role of Social Security in American political discourse.

Inside the Beltway, doomsaying about Social Security — declaring that the program as we know it can’t survive the onslaught of retiring baby boomers — is regarded as a sort of badge of seriousness, a way of showing how statesmanlike and tough-minded you are.

Consider, for example, this exchange about Social Security between Chris Matthews of MSNBC and Tim Russert of NBC, on a recent edition of Mr. Matthews’s program “Hardball.”

Mr. Russert: “Everyone knows Social Security, as it’s constructed, is not going to be in the same place it’s going to be for the next generation, Democrats, Republicans, liberals, conservatives.”

Mr. Matthews: “It’s a bad Ponzi scheme, at this point.”

Mr. Russert: “Yes.”

But the “everyone” who knows that Social Security is doomed doesn’t include anyone who actually understands the numbers. In fact, the whole Beltway obsession with the fiscal burden of an aging population is misguided.

As Peter Orszag, the director of the Congressional Budget Office, put it in a recent article co-authored with senior analyst Philip Ellis: “The long-term fiscal condition of the United States has been largely misdiagnosed. Despite all the attention paid to demographic challenges, such as the coming retirement of the baby-boom generation, our country’s financial health will in fact be determined primarily by the growth rate of per capita health care costs.”

How has conventional wisdom gotten this so wrong? Well, in large part it’s the result of decades of scare-mongering about Social Security’s future from conservative ideologues, whose ultimate goal is to undermine the program.

Thus, in 2005, the Bush administration tried to push through a combination of privatization and benefit cuts that would, over time, have reduced Social Security to nothing but a giant 401(k). The administration claimed that this was necessary to save the program, which officials insisted was “heading toward an iceberg.”

But the administration’s real motives were, in fact, ideological. The anti-tax activist Stephen Moore gave the game away when he described Social Security as “the soft underbelly of the welfare state,” and hailed the Bush plan as a way to put a “spear” through that soft underbelly.

Fortunately, the scare tactics failed. Democrats in Congress stood their ground; progressive analysts debunked, one after another, the phony arguments of the privatizers; and the public made it clear that it wants to preserve a basic safety net for retired Americans.

That should have been that. But what Jonathan Chait of The New Republic calls “entitlement hysteria” never seems to die. In October, The Washington Post published an editorial castigating Hillary Clinton for, um, not being panicky about Social Security — and as we’ve seen, nonsense like the claim that Social Security is a Ponzi scheme seems to be back in vogue.

Which brings us back to Mr. Obama. Why would he, in effect, play along with this new round of scare-mongering and devalue one of the great progressive victories of the Bush years?

I don’t believe Mr. Obama is a closet privatizer. He is, however, someone who keeps insisting that he can transcend the partisanship of our times — and in this case, that turned him into a sucker.

Mr. Obama wanted a way to distinguish himself from Hillary Clinton — and for Mr. Obama, who has said that the reason “we can’t tackle the big problems that demand solutions” is that “politics has become so bitter and partisan,” joining in the attack on Senator Clinton’s Social Security position must have seemed like a golden opportunity to sound forceful yet bipartisan.

But Social Security isn’t a big problem that demands a solution; it’s a small problem, way down the list of major issues facing America, that has nonetheless become an obsession of Beltway insiders. And on Social Security, as on many other issues, what Washington means by bipartisanship is mainly that everyone should come together to give conservatives what they want.

We all wish that American politics weren’t so bitter and partisan. But if you try to find common ground where none exists — which is the case for many issues today — you end up being played for a fool. And that’s what has just happened to Mr. Obama.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (358867)11/16/2007 11:36:51 AM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571785
 
Koreas Announce New Cooperation

By CHOE SANG-HUN
nytimes.com
( Will N. Korea be the next cheap-labor destination for manufacturing? )

SEOUL, Nov. 16 — The prime ministers of North and South Korea announced a significant package of cross-border economic projects today to help rebuild the North’s broken economy and ease military tension on the divided Korean Peninsula by increasing human and cargo traffic across the Demilitarized Zone. At the end of three days of talks here, North Korea’s prime minister, Kim Yong-il, and his South Korean counterpart, Han Duck-soo, agreed to start cross-border freight-train service for the first time in more than half a century, scheduling the first, and highly symbolic, border crossing a week before South Korea holds presidential elections on Dec. 19.

Then, starting in the first half of 2008, fishing boats from the two Koreas will work together in a joint fishing zone in the same frontier waters where their respective navies engaged in a bloody skirmish in 2002, the prime ministers said.

Also, the North will relocate its warships from Haeju, a key naval base near the border, to make room for South Korean cargo ships and a new industrial complex to be built there by South Korean investors. Construction will begin as early as next year.

“These projects will chip away at the DMZ,” said Koh Yu Hwan, an expert on North Korea at Dongguk University in Seoul. “They are steppingstones toward what we hope will become a confederation of the two Koreas before eventual reunification.”

The joint economic projects will cost South Korea between $11.1 billion and $15.8 billion, according to Kim Young-yoon, a researcher at the government-run Korea Institute for National Unification.

Since Wednesday, the two government leaders huddled in Seoul to advance the rapprochement created by the inter-Korean summit meeting in early October and the North’s decision to disable its nuclear weapons facilities.

At the October meeting, President Roh Moo-hyun and the North Korean leader, Kim Jong-il, called for negotiations on a peace treaty that would formally end the state of war between the two countries.

The meeting this week was free from the kind of haggling common in inter-Korean negotiations. Analysts said the two sides were bonded by a common desire to influence the December presidential election by strengthening South Korean liberals, who favor reconciliation and investment for the impoverished North.

For North Korea, the talks this week provided a last opportunity to win major investment commitments from the South before Mr. Roh’s liberal government steps down in February.

Mr. Roh is barred by the Constitution from running. But liberal candidates close to him are lagging behind the conservative candidate, Lee Myung-bak, by large margins.

Some analysts noted that the meeting was notable for avoiding direct discussion of North Korea’s nuclear weapons, the focus of international sanctions. The South believes that investments will help the government in the North see the long-term benefits of giving up nuclear weapons.

“It is really disappointing to the international community that the prime ministers of the two Koreas meet for the first time in 15 years,” said Nam Joo Hong, a North Korea expert at Kyonggi University, “but their agreements didn’t raise a peep about North Korea’s nuclear weapons programs, a major international security threat.”

The two sides said freight trains would begin regular service on Dec. 11 on a 16-mile track linking the South Korean city of Munsan and a joint industrial complex in Kaesong , a North Korean town just north of the border.

Trucks and buses already run between the two towns on a newly built road. But train service, even if a short distance, marks a significant first step in South Korea’s grand design: connecting its railways to China, Russia and Europe, its three fast-growing export markets.

As part of that dream, South Korea also agreed today to repair North Korea’s decrepit railroad all the way between Kaesong and the North Korean border with China, starting next year. It will also start building shipyards in North Korea next year.

“I firmly believe that today’s agreement will contribute greatly to bringing peace and prosperity on the Korean Peninsula,” said Unification Minister Lee Jae Joung, South Korea’s main policymaker on the North.

The new projects will lift South Korea’s competitiveness as it vies with low-cost China in the global marketplace, officials said.

The South is already the North’s No. 2 trading partner, behind China. Trade between the two Koreas surged 23 percent to $1.4 billion in the first 10 months of this year. About one-quarter of the trade came from goods produced at Kaesong , where 20,000 North Korean workers produce garments and kitchen utensils at 50 South Korean factories, earning only one-third of what their Chinese counterparts do.

Goods from Kaesong were excluded from a free trade agreement reached in April between South Korea and the United States amid fears in Washington that projects like Kaesong could buttress the North Korea regime before it abandons nuclear weapons.

South Korea’s decision to create another such industrial complex at Haeju, near Kaesong , could further complicate the prospects of United States congressional approval of the trade agreement, said Nam Joo Hong, a North Korea expert at Kyonggi University.

South Korea agreed toay to expand the Kaesong complex. The North said it would allow South Koreans to use the Internet and mobile phones inside Kaesong ; they are forbidden in the rest of the isolated country.

Copyright 2007 The New York Times Company



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (358867)11/17/2007 12:10:57 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1571785
 
Ted, > Hallalujah! You guys got one right for a change.

I'm still waiting for you to apologize for calling me "a man of color with no shame" ...


I refuse to apologize for something that is true. You belong to a party that uses your ethnic background to promote its negative agenda while privately not considering you an equal. It angers me that you want acceptness so badly that you would ally yourself with people who are not your friends.

Having said that, we all want acceptness......I am no different but there is a point in our lives where we should be true to ourselves and not sell ourselves short.



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (358867)11/19/2007 8:45:45 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1571785
 
"a man of color with no shame" ...

BTW I don't think I made the above comment. Could be wrong but it doesn't sound like my wording.