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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Mary Cluney who wrote (2938)11/18/2007 9:22:40 PM
From: John Koligman  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
The NY Times Magazine has a powerful photo essay in today's issue concerning a 'Doctors Without Borders' type group called RAM (Remote Area Medical) that typically sends medical volunteers on missions to nations like Tanzania, Guyana, and others, but now finds itself doing more and more work in the United States. The photos show the doctors working at the Wise County Fairgrounds in Virginia, donating their services to folks without medical insurance. People are shown sleeping in their trucks/tents waiting to get into the Fairgrounds in hopes of getting care. Not all are seen, and the photomontage is powerful stuff. One of the ER doctors who has volunteered at RAM for the last four years states 'If you spend a day here, you see there's something wrong with healthcare in this country'... Quite ironic that a group like this has to work in the US....

Regards,
John



To: Mary Cluney who wrote (2938)11/19/2007 12:16:32 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
We Can Afford Universal health Care

Maybe, maybe not. Either way its not something I want to afford.

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On almost all measures of health care and mortality, we lag behind Canada and Europe.

A lot of the widely quoted international rankings of health care aren't very good. I've made multiple posts about the problems in some of these rankings in particular WHO's rankings.

As for mortality/life expectancy, we have more homicides, more accidental death, and we are fatter.

but so do people in single-payer countries, and at lower cost.

With much cheaper doctors, price controls on drugs that discourage new drugs (leaving the American consumer to effectively pay for new drug research, which might be considered unfair, but if we control prices too than you won't get nearly as much investment in new drugs), different legal systems, and medical cultures, and also the accidents and homicides increase costs in the US.