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To: wherry who wrote (93849)11/21/2007 8:19:21 AM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206154
 
Beyond 2020, say 2050: "Yamal peninsula and Kara Sea may hold over 30 trillion cubic meters of gas, more than the proved reserves of OAO Gazprom. Development of the region could take 50 years, according to a slide presentation received from GasTerra."
bloomberg.com

Just a matter of cost...

When I said -during the tech bubble- that we would end up with a fiber optic bandwidth glut, Jesus! I was laughed off many SI Telecoms sites.



To: wherry who wrote (93849)4/14/2008 4:49:14 PM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206154
 
An appology is called for! Please re-read and read PBR today.

Petrobras Surges on 33 Billion-Barrel Field Estimate
bloomberg.com



To: wherry who wrote (93849)6/27/2008 10:20:56 AM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 206154
 
Oil, Oil, Everywhere . . .
January 27, 2005

By Peter Huber and Mark Mills

The price of oil remains high only because the cost of oil remains so low. We remain dependent on oil from the Mideast not because the planet is running out of buried hydrocarbons, but because extracting oil from the deserts of the Persian Gulf is so easy and cheap that it's risky to invest capital to extract somewhat more stubborn oil from far larger deposits in Alberta.

The market price of oil is indeed hovering up around $50-a-barrel on the spot market. But getting oil to the surface currently costs under $5 a barrel in Saudi Arabia, with the global average cost certainly under $15. And with technology already well in hand, the cost of sucking oil out of the planet we occupy simply will not rise above roughly $30 per barrel for the next 100 years at least.

The cost of oil comes down to the cost of finding, and then lifting or extracting. First, you have to decide where to dig. Exploration costs currently run under $3 per barrel in much of the Mideast, and below $7 for oil hidden deep under the ocean. But these costs have been falling, not rising, because imaging technology that lets geologists peer through miles of water and rock improves faster than supplies recede. Many lower-grade deposits require no new looking at all.

To pick just one example among many, finding costs are essentially zero for the 3.5 trillion barrels of oil that soak the clay in the Orinoco basin in Venezuela, and the Athabasca tar sands in Alberta, Canada. Yes, that's trillion -- over a century's worth of global supply, at the current 30-billion-barrel-a-year rate of consumption.

Then you have to get the oil out of the sand -- or the sand out of the oil. In the Mideast, current lifting costs run $1 to $2.50 per barrel at the very most; lifting costs in Iraq probably run closer to 50 cents, though OPEC strains not to publicize any such embarrassingly low numbers. For the most expensive offshore platforms in the North Sea, lifting costs (capital investment plus operating costs) currently run comfortably south of $15 per barrel. Tar sands, by contrast, are simply strip mined, like western coal, and that's very cheap -- but then you spend another $10, or maybe $15, separating the oil from the dirt. To do that, oil or gas extracted from the site itself is burned to heat water, which is then used to "crack" the bitumen from the clay; the bitumen is then chemically split to produce lighter petroleum.

In sum, it costs under $5 per barrel to pump oil out from under the sand in Iraq, and about $15 to melt it out of the sand in Alberta. So why don't we just learn to love hockey and shop Canadian? Conventional Canadian wells already supply us with more oil than Saudi Arabia, and the Canadian tar is now delivering, too. The $5 billion (U.S.) Athabasca Oil Sands Project that Shell and ChevronTexaco opened in Alberta last year is now pumping 155,000 barrels per day. And to our south, Venezuela's Orinoco Belt yields 500,000 barrels daily.

But here's the catch: By simply opening up its spigots for a few years, Saudi Arabia could, in short order, force a complete write-off of the huge capital investments in Athabasca and Orinoco. Investing billions in tar-sand refineries is risky not because getting oil out of Alberta is especially difficult or expensive, but because getting oil out of Arabia is so easy and cheap. Oil prices gyrate and occasionally spike -- both up and down -- not because oil is scarce, but because it's so abundant in places where good government is scarce. Investing $5 billion dollars over five years to build a new tar-sand refinery in Alberta is indeed risky when a second cousin of Osama bin Laden can knock $20 off the price of oil with an idle wave of his hand on any given day in Riyadh.

The one consolation is that Arabia faces a quandary of its own. Once the offshore platform has been deployed in the North Sea, once the humongous crock pot is up and cooking in Alberta, its cost is sunk. The original investors may never recover their capital, but after it has been written off, somebody can go ahead and produce oil very profitably going forward. And capital costs are going to keep falling, because the cost of a tar-sand refinery depends on technology, and technology costs always fall. Bacteria, for example, have already been successfully bioengineered to crack heavy oil molecules to help clean up oil spills, and to mine low-grade copper; bugs could likewise end up trampling out the vintage where the Albertan oil is stored.

In the short term anything remains possible. Demand for oil grows daily in China and India, where good government is finally taking root, while much of the earth's most accessible oil lies under land controlled by feudal theocracies, kleptocrats, and fanatics. Day by day, just as it should, the market attempts to incorporate these two antithetical realities into the spot price of crude. But to suppose that those prices foreshadow the exhaustion of the planet itself is silly.

The cost of extracting oil from the earth has not gone up over the past century, it has held remarkably steady. Going forward, over the longer term, it may rise very gradually, but certainly not fast. The earth is far bigger than people think, the untapped deposits are huge, and the technologies for separating oil from planet keep getting better. U.S. oil policy should be to promote new capital investment in the United States, Canada, and other oil-producing countries that are politically stable, and promote stable government in those that aren't.

Messrs. Huber and Mills are co-authors of "The Bottomless Well: The Twilight Of Fuel, The Virtue Of Waste, And Why We Will Never Run Out Of Energy," just out from Basic Books.



To: wherry who wrote (93849)6/27/2008 11:34:08 AM
From: elmatador  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206154
 
l7/13/2006: Oil glut of heavy sour crude oil that is tough to refine into gasoline. The supply of crude that is easiest to refine into gasoline remains tight enough to keep the price of filling up truly painful.

There's just not enough light sweet crude to meet demand. And, while there's plenty of heavy sour crude, a barrel of heavy sour crude yields about a third less gasoline than does a barrel of sweet light crude.

Many refineries, especially in Asia, can't handle heavy sour crude at all. (A heavy crude is thicker than light crude. A sour crude contains a higher percentage of sulfur.)

How big a glut? A big, big one, judging by the price of light sweet and heavy sour crude. At the end of June, Nigerian Bonny Light, one of most sought-after grades of light sweet crude, was selling on the spot market for $71.65 a barrel, while Saudi Arabian Heavy sold for $58.70 a barrel, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration. That's a spread of almost $13 a barrel, way above the $5 a barrel historical average for the spread between light sweet and heavy sour grades.

So big a glut that Saudi Arabia, a big producer of heavy sour crude, cut back production in May and that month produced slightly less oil than permitted by OPEC (Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries) quotas. Iran, which has steadfastly refused to discount its heavy sour crude, has begun storing some excess production in tankers. The current total in tanker storage off Iran is believed to be around 20 million barrels.