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To: neolib who wrote (17602)	11/21/2007 2:08:48 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 36921

using selective data and programs that give desired results even with random data are the methods of the global warming lurkers. the true truth seekers give full data with full explanations and hide nothing. When one posts truth, one does not have to hide behind an anonymous label. I see the spots. But lying lurkers do not wish to research truth. climateaudit.org home.casema.nl Craig Loehle sneds the following information on provenance: 1) GRIP borehole temperature (Dahl-Jensen et al., 1998): See Moberg Nature site supplementary material [SM - digitized version is at climateaudit.org ) 2) Conroy Lake pollen (Gajewski, 1988): ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/pollen/recons/liadata.txt 3) Chesapeake Bay Mg/Ca (Cronin et al., 2003): ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/contributions_by_author/cronin2003/ [SM question: two T series - which column?] 4) Sargasso Sea 18O (Keigwin, 1996); ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/contributions_by_author/keigwin1996/ 5) Caribbean Sea 18O (Nyberg et al., 2002); ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/contributions_by_author/nyberg2002/ CL: converted to temperature on the Moberg article nature site suppl material. SM - which version is used in Moberg (and Loehle?) 6) Lake Tsuolbmajavri diatoms (Korhola et al., 2000); See Moberg Nature site supplementary material. Digitized version from print version at climateaudit.org 7) Shihua Cave layer thickness (Tan et al., 2003); ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/speleothem/china/shihua_tan2003.txt use col 7 temp 8.) China composite (Yang et al., 2002) CL - this does use tree ring width for two out of the eight series that are averaged to get the composite, or 1.4% of the total data input to the mean computed below; ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/contributions_by_author/yang2002/china_temp.txt SM- which version? 9) speleothem data from a South African cave (Holmgren et al., 1999); CL: from author?email sent for archive link SM: compare to ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/speleothem/africa/cold_air_cave.txt 10) SST variations (warm season) off West Africa (deMenocal et al., 2000); ODP_658C ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/contributions_by_author/demenocal2000/ 11) SST from the southeast Atlantic (Farmer et al., 2005);ODP_1084B ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/contributions_by_author/farmer2005/ 12) SST reconstruction in the Norwegian Sea (Calvo et al., 2002) - MD952011 SM: perhaps box core JM97-948/2A (CL link incorrect: compare to doi.pangaea.de doi.pangaea.de 13-14) SST from two cores in the western tropical Pacific (Stott et al., 2004); MD98_2181 MD98_2176 ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/contributions_by_author/stott2004/ 15) mean temperature for North America based on pollen profiles (Viau et al.,2006); lpc.uottawa.ca ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/pollen/recons/northamerica/viau2006namerica-temp.txt 16) a phenology-based reconstruction from China (Ge et al., 2003); ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/historical/china/china_winter_temp.txt 17) annual mean SST for northern Pacific site SSDP-102 (Latitude 34.9530, Longitude 128.8810) from Kim et al. (2004); doi.pangaea.de 18) Spannagel Cave (Central Alps) stalagmite oxygen isotope data (Mangini et al., 2005). ftp://ftp.ncdc.noaa.gov/pub/data/paleo/speleothem/europe/austria/spannagel2005.txtmean SST for northern Pacific site