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To: TopCat who wrote (359786)11/21/2007 4:19:12 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577280
 
However, the Israelis have ample successes in their kibbutzim that you all repeatedly overlook."

I've already pointed out to you that kibbutzims in Israel are mostly capitalistic today and you backed off then. Short memory?...or, just trying to spread your BS again?


Not really. I don't remember you telling me the above. Maybe its you who has the false memory. I said there are ample successes of communal living on the kibbutzim in Israel. If some have converted to more capitalistic ventures, that doesn't change the fact they were successes before the conversion. In addition, there are still kibbutz that are communal. I know that because some of my Israeli friends are from those kibbutzim. One communal kibbutz, in fact, is very wealthy because they came up with an irrigation system that is very popular in the ME.

"While the kibbutzim lasted for several generations as utopian communities, most of today's kibbutzim are scarcely different from the capitalist enterprises and regular towns to which the kibbutzim were originally supposed to be alternatives."

en.wikipedia.org;

And interesting footnote to the kibbutz movement:

"The kibbutzim have given Israel a disproportionate share of its military leaders, intellectuals, and politicians.[2]