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To: Win Smith who wrote (249233)	11/21/2007 7:34:51 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Not only that, any post Libby trial timeline reveals that while McClellan was passing on the lies, everyone (BUT Bush?) KNEW he was lying.

To: Win Smith who wrote (249233)	11/21/2007 10:06:45 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

It's not leaking if the other guy tells you first, Winnie. Like Andrea Mitchell (no Bushie she!) said on CNN, Plame's name was already known to DC reporters on intelligence matters as a WMD expert. Once bigmouth Joe published his op-ed, it was a simple matter of connecting the dots. Obviously Joe Wilson was not the kind of emissary Dick Cheney (or a serious CIA for that matter) would have chosen, so how else could he have gotten the gig?

To: Win Smith who wrote (249233)	11/21/2007 11:31:31 PM
From: Ruffian	Respond to of 281500

<Somehow, you always manage to leave out the fact that Rove leaked to Novak,> for the 1000th time, PROVE IT!!

To: Win Smith who wrote (249233)	11/22/2007 2:49:46 PM
From: J_F_Shepard	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Uproar Over McClellan Statement on Plame Case Grows -- Even Judith Miller Weighs In By Greg Mitchell Published: November 21, 2007 12:40 PM ET NEW YORK Reaction to a brief excerpt from an upcoming book by former White House spokesman Scott McClellan escalated late last night and today, with candidates for president in both parties -- and even Judith Miller -- weighing in. McClellan will be coming out with his volume in April. It's called "What Happened" and its publisher, Public Affairs, at its Web site now carries a short excerpt -- which set off a media firestorm on Tuesday. It also led to a call for a full probe by a top U.S. senator and condemnation from former CIA agent Valerie Plame. E&P was first mainstream news outlet to report on Monday night that the McClellan excerpt reads: "The most powerful leader in the world had called upon me to speak on his behalf and help restore credibility he lost amid the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. So I stood at the White house briefing room podium in front of the glare of the klieg lights for the better part of two weeks and publicly exonerated two of the senior-most aides in the White House: Karl Rove and Scooter Libby. "There was one problem. It was not true. "I had unknowingly passed along false information. And five of the highest ranking officials in the administration "were involved in my doing so: Rove, Libby, the vice President, the President's chief of staff, and the president himself." AP reported: "White House press secretary Dana Perino said it wasn't clear what McClellan meant in the excerpt and she had no immediate comment. McClellan turned down interview requests Tuesday." Politico.com caught up with two reporters embroiled in the Plame case. “You’re only as good as your sources,” Judith Miller, formerly with The New York Times, said "with a mischievous laugh," Politico noted. She added: “Nothing surprises me about Washington during this administration anymore." Matt Cooper, formerly with Time magazine, said he “was always frustrated that Rove and Libby misled McClellan....I’m glad McClellan is, too." Gov. Mike Huckabee said on MSNBC: "It's stunning. It's one of those moments where I'm glad to not be a Washington insider...They are serious allegations but we don't know whether they're true...They deserve to be thoroughly investigated and the truth brought to the American people." Later Tuesday, Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Ct.) , who is also running for president, stated, "Today's revelations by Mr. McClellan are very disturbing and raise several important questions that need to be answered. If in fact the President of the United of States knowingly instructed his chief spokesman to mislead the American people, there can be no more fundamental betrayal of the public trust. "During his confirmation process, Attorney General Mukasey said he would act independently. Accordingly, today, I call on the Attorney General to live up to his word and launch an immediate investigation to determine the facts of this case, the extent of any cover up and determine what the President knew and when he knew it." But in a clarifying statement, Peter Osnos, founder and editor-in-chief of Public Affairs Books, told Bloomberg News that McClellan doesn't suggest that Bush deliberately lied to him about Libby's and Rove's involvement in the leak. "He told him something that wasn't true, but the president didn't know it wasn't true," Osnos said in a telephone interview. "The president told him what he thought to be the case." On Tuesday, Valerie Plame had released the following statement from her new home in Santa Fe, N.M.: "I am outraged to learn that former White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan confirms that he was sent out to lie to the press corps....Unfortunately, President Bush's commutation of Scooter Libby's felony sentence has short-circuited justice.... McClellan's revelations provide important support for our civil suit against those who violated our national security and maliciously destroyed my career." In its promotional material posted at Amazon.com and elsewhere, the publisher describes the book like this: "In this refreshingly clear-eyed book, written with no agenda other than to record his experiences and insights for the benefit of history, McClellan provides unique perspective on what happened and why it happened the way it did, including the Iraq war, Hurricane Katrina, Washington's bitter partisanship, and two hotly-contested presidential campaigns. He gives readers a candid look into who George W. Bush is and what he believes, and into the personalities, strengths, and liabilities of his top aides. "Finally, McClellan looks to the future, exploring the lessons this presidency offers the American people as we prepare to elect a new leader." *** For a look at what's happened in the two years since Rep. John Murtha's call for disengagement in Iraq (for starters, 1,800 more American deaths): John Murtha