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To: TimF who wrote (359894)11/22/2007 4:49:18 PM
From: Taro  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1575420
 
The thing is that Ole Europe, and in particular so France and Germany outperforms the New World in "Harmony" and "Culture". Or at least they claim so and truly believe in that. Which keeps them all happy and feeling superior to those Yankees.

Taro



To: TimF who wrote (359894)11/23/2007 1:58:40 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575420
 
Germany is the largest economy in Europe and has performed relatively poorly. Germany reunified over 17 years ago. The only reason not to include Germany is to distort the states in Europe's favor.

No. The reason to omit Germany is because its gone through an expensive reunification where one of the entities was dirt poor. Given that scenario, Germany has done very well for itself but statistically it still screws up the Euro averages.

the average person in Germany or France or Italy is better off as determined by the most important statistic there is.....longevity

So now longevity is not only a perfect proxy for the quality of the health care system, and the health insurance system, its a perfect proxy for the economic well being of a country... What nonsense...


I never said it was the perfect proxy for anything but one thing is very clear.........you can't make money when you are dead.

Americans get in to more fatal accidents (esp. car accidents, which is mainly do to the fact that we drive more), and are more likely to kill each other. We're slightly, but not very less likely to kill ourselves. Strip those out and we have a better life expectancy than many Western European countries. I don't have all the stats in front of me but I've already performed and posted the calculations for the UK and we clearly do better than the UK when you adjust for those factors.

Why is it you choose the UK with which to make your comparison?

The simple facts are that the US has outperformed Europe, in GDP, in GDP per capita, in GDP growth, in GDP growth per capita, in unemployment rates, in median and mean compensation and income, and in many other ways of measuring economic growth and/or well being.

......in crime, in poverty, in the death rate, in prison population, in fuel consumption, in pollution......somehow your boosterism doesn't stand up to the glare of negative statistics.