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To: kingfisher who wrote (93898)	11/23/2007 9:09:10 AM
From: Webster Groves	Respond to of 206154

NETL is keeping this info as a state secret (if it exists). All I found was this old PR statement: 204.154.137.14 Closer reading of the Globe says that if the "new technology" were to work, then all this oil could be recovered. Using tracers in wells is not new, so I don't get it unless someone's hyped grant report got confused with reality. The "what-if" statement was if 7000 strippers could recover 200 additional barrels a day (presumably forever), then that would exceed imports from Canada. Why stop there ? If each well could pump 400 barrels a day additional, we could export oil to Canada. Get the drift ? Like in snow ? wg

To: kingfisher who wrote (93898)	11/23/2007 10:28:12 AM
From: dsindakota	Respond to of 206154

See the following: netl.doe.gov Edit: There is a lot of hype here. Here is a year old example from their site: netl.doe.gov Dave

To: kingfisher who wrote (93898)	11/23/2007 10:36:38 AM
From: Tommaso	Respond to of 206154

"In Alberta, the oil sands were widely regarded, 30 years ago, as an impossible challenge technically and economically. But production costs in the oil sands have fallen from $35 a barrel to $5 a barrel. " If this statement is a measure of the reliability of the rest of the article, it would be best to discount everything said there. Tar sands production costs have never dropped to anything close to $5 a barrel, unless it means unprocessed bitumen. The most efficient syncrude operation runs around $25 a barrel, and that does not factor in amortization of capital costs.

To: kingfisher who wrote (93898)	11/23/2007 10:39:31 AM
From: dsindakota	Respond to of 206154

See my previous message (edited) Dave

To: kingfisher who wrote (93898)	11/23/2007 10:47:30 AM
From: Kayaker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 206154

<< ....NETL, operating from six research campuses across the U.S., is the only government-owned research laboratory that works exclusively on fossil-fuel technology. It funds research into EOR - "enhanced oil recovery".... >> A dose of reality for enhanced oil recovery (EOR) projection Published on 29 Oct 2007 by ASPO-USA. Archived on 29 Oct 2007. by Tom Standing energybulletin.net Once again, the NPC expects too much from enhanced oil recovery Published on 1 Oct 2007 by ASPO-USA. Archived on 1 Oct 2007. by Tom Standing energybulletin.net