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To: Tadsamillionaire who wrote (1759)11/23/2007 2:54:37 PM
From: calgal  Respond to of 3215
 
Edwards Could Leapfrog Hillary and Obama
By Douglas MacKinnon
Friday, November 23, 2007

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As a Republican, I have watched in fascination as many in my party, the media and most of the Democrats have not only all but given Hillary Clinton the Democratic nomination, but have continually speculated how she will do against the Republican nominee. As they do this, I can't help but wonder how real life, human nature, media reporting, take-no-prisoner politics and recent history will play into such predictions.

In conversations I've had with two well-placed Democrats, they are anything but confident about Mrs. Clinton securing the nomination. According to them, if she goes on to lose Iowa, then "all bets are off."


Former Senator John Edwards (D-NC) speaks at a "Presidential Forum on Global Warming and America's Energy Future," in Los Angeles November 17, 2007. REUTERS/Lucy Nicholson (UNITED STATES)
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If either Barack Obama or John Edwards beats Mrs. Clinton in Iowa, a strong case can then be made that Mr. Edwards, not Mrs. Clinton, not Mr. Obama, will be the eventual Democratic nominee. That case would be built on the strong desire — bordering on desperation — of Democratic voters, and some in the media, to bring an end to eight years of Republican White House rule.

While Democrats won't talk about it publicly as it goes against their vow of political correctness, behind the scenes, a number of them wonder if the America of 2008 will be "open-minded and mature enough" to actually elect a woman or an African American. Former Rep. Harold Ford dealt with this question during his run for the Senate in Tennessee in 2006. What pollsters discovered is that whatever number of voters said they were going to vote for Mr. Ford, they had to subtract about 10 percentage points from that number to get close to the truth. Will such a scenario plague Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama? Recent history indicates it could.

If the Democratic primary voters get skittish with regard to the overall electability of Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama, who will be the natural beneficiary? Politics of the day seem to point toward Mr. Edwards.

Again, let's take a look at recent history. It has been suggested that, back in 2003, neither mainstream Democrats nor many in the media felt Howard Dean had what it took to defeat the despised George W. Bush in 2004.

While that is a subject that can be debated, what cannot be argued is that in December 2003, Mr. Dean had an all but "insurmountable" lead over John Kerry. It was at that time that generic stories started to spring up "reporting" that Mr. Dean seemed to be dropping a bit with Mr. Kerry rising. Next, just 11 days before the Iowa Caucus, NBC News dropped a bomb on Mr. Dean with their "unearthed" clips of Mr. Dean from a Canadian news show titled "The Editors." The clip NBC showcased was one from 1999 where Mr. Dean seemed to criticize the process in Iowa.

No surprise that Mr. Dean went on to lose the Iowa Caucus. Later that evening, after losing, Mr. Dean gave his now infamous "I have a scream" speech. Next, between that night and the New Hampshire primary one week later, the media played that clip more than 600 times. It was assault and battery by the media and Mr. Dean was down for the count as Mr. Kerry won New Hampshire on his way to the nomination.

What must be remembered in all of this is just a couple of months prior to that primary, Mr. Kerry was tracking in the high single- or low double-digit numbers in many New Hampshire polls. Because they border Massachusetts, those voters knew Mr. Kerry well and never liked him. But, when Mr. Dean was blown up by the media, the voters decided that Mr. Kerry was the only "viable" candidate left.

It should be noted that after that network assault, Diane Sawyer of ABC News called the heads of the other networks for on-the-record quotes, asking if they overplayed the Dean scream. She reported: "With the exception of NBC News (which started the destruction), they all said collectively the media did overplay it." CNN said, "if we had to do it again, we'd pull ourselves back." Little solace for Mr. Dean but a real lesson for those who try to predict presidential primaries. Until actual votes are cast, anything can happen at any time.

As this ugly process plays out, the question should not be who's inevitable, but rather, who's next. Mr. Edwards seems to be third in line for take off, but if Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Obama crash and burn ahead of him, it may be clear skies all the way to the nomination.

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To: Tadsamillionaire who wrote (1759)11/23/2007 2:54:51 PM
From: calgal  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 3215
 
Ugly Clinton Rising
By Kevin McCullough
Sunday, November 18, 2007

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As I sat in bed in the wee hours of Saturday morning, the Lovely Bride long having drifted off to sleep by my side and only the bloodshot inducing glow of my laptop staring back at me in the darkness - my stomach sank. On the screen in front of me was the latest reminder of what most of the nation had put behind us some seven years ago. I say latest because the signs have been many, and this week came fast and furious.

I remember the day George W. Bush was sworn in as President in his first term, I wondered aloud how he could stand to share the same car to and from the swearing in ceremony with the outgoing first "couple." I suppose that when the world came crashing down around us on September 11 one of the real benefits such tragedy left us with was that there was no need to be reminded any longer of the unseemly deceit, acts of marital infidelity, the brutal use of absolute power to bully the press, and worst of all having our leaders point their fingers at us and boldly tell us untrue things - merely to save their own hide.


U.S. Senator Barack Obama (D-IL) (C) and U.S. Senator Hillary Clinton (D-NY) (L) listen as former U.S. Senator John Edwards (D-NC) speaks during the CNN/Nevada Democratic Party debate at the University of Nevada Las Vegas (UNLV) in Las Vegas, Nevada November 15, 2007. REUTERS/Steve Marcus (UNITED STATES)
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If Hillary Clinton becomes president - get ready for everything we hated about our government to come springing back to life.

CNN's Wolf Blitzer's less than robustly honest form of debate engineering reminded us of the old idea that when it came to being bought and sold in favor of the Clinton's - CNN's brand was head and shoulders above the crowd.

The now thrice confessed to manipulation of questions by the Clinton camp as it related to campaign rallies, or even supposedly non-partisan debates took us back to the reports of the same type when the "charming Clinton" was the candidate.

Sure by the time Sandy Berger committed a felony offense of stealing national documents by stuffing them in his boxers, so many years had gone by that a number of younger adults were saying, "hey I sorta remember him." But the affable fumbling of "gosh I just don't know what I did with those things" answer seemed to satisfy as an explanation. Yet a more loyal task-taker for the steely-eyed Clintons was never found.

The reunification this week of Sydney Blumenthal to the Clinton camp was another sickening moment. In many ways Blumenthal's performance before the Ken Starr investigators made Bill Clinton look truly amateurish. The ease with which Blumenthal was able to sell falsehoods, ever changing recollections of things as they had happened, and his willingness to just bald-face lie sent shivers down the spines of those who watched it. Yet since less than one-third of the American people even understood what the true nature of the investigations were all about, America yawned and went on its way.

Even fellow liberals are decrying the underhanded, back-stage, off-the-record informal strategizing that James Carville is now bringing back to the primary election cycle.

So what was it on the screen at 3am that made me feel so sick?

A blurb if you will, just a tidbit really, in the newest Robert Novak column that simply detailed the discovery of a "file" that Hillary is keeping on Barack Obama. The "scandalous information" of which she is promising not to use (for now) for the sake of a unified party heading into the general election. Of course if Obama wins in Iowa and New Hampshire look for that same "scandalous information" to make it into the hands of CNN staffers, who just couldn't quite tell you how they came to be in possession of it. continued...

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