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To: E. T. who wrote (24240)	11/27/2007 10:06:42 PM
From: Peter Dierks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71588

"Why can't I say Bush has done a lousy job of catching OBL." Why don't you ever finish that with something like 'but unlike Clinton, his efforts had a chance to succeed'? "What's wrong with stating the obvious, that he's made a mess of things in Iraq." There is nothing wrong with stating the obvious that President Bush has rescued millions of people from tyranny in Iraq. Nor is there anything wrong with pointing out that the terrorists in Iraq are on the run even though they are being supplied by the number one enemy of civilization, the top sponsor of terror, Iran. What you confuse is your opinion and you choose to deny that anyone else has a right to theirs. "Why can't I ask, 'Where are the effing WMDs?'" We would all like to know why Clinton said they had them, Kerry, Teddy 'hic" Kennedy said they had them, Hillary, Edwards, and virtually every democrat said they had them. You play the game of pretending that it was President Bush's fault that Saddam wanted the world to believe he had more weapons than he had. You also neglect to mention the entire scum missiles that were found in European junkyards because Saddam was selling them for scrap metal to finance the end of his regime and to get them out of his country to enable the easily misled to make specious claims. "Why am I accused of being a traitor when I ask these question? You accuse those who love their freedom and who support those who keep you free of being traitors for enabling you to turn against your country. It is not the weak that have dominated history. It is robust civilizations that have combined military power with support for the sciences and the arts that have thrived. When you wish to undermine the military that keeps you free, you open yourself to that charge of attempting to undermine all of our freedoms. We support the things that make freedom possible. From my perspective, when you undermine the things that make the great things about the country you undermine the country. When you write of freedom do you mean the freedom to make someone else pay for your medical care? The freedom to spend every dime you make and then retire with lots more income on someone else's tab? The freedom to say hurtful things and then accuse those who point out your bad behavior of being a fascist? The freedom to make excuses for underperformance and use that as an excuse to encourage future underperformance? Which freedoms do you hold dear?,/i> "I'm talking about the freedom to hold a contrary view and not be called a traitor for it." I would never call you one for expressing an opinion that was contrary to mine unless you were espousing opinions that substantially contradict our freedom. "So what if I disagree with you on universal health care," If you so love socialized medicine try moving to Cuba, they have it there. I am sure that if you managed to stay out of the gulags you might live almost as long as you would in America. I am not for people in need receiving health care and you know that. What I am against is the destruction of the American medical miracle that created most of the medical advances in the last century. If you are content with the current state of medical technology then wait another decade before destroying American medicine, by then the socialized medicine countries will be where we are now. "every other country in the industrialized world has it, why can't America?" That is a false claim. If you really believe it, prove it. "Or at least why can't some one hold that view and not be called a traitor" Huh, I do not believe that I ever called anyone a traitor for wanting to destroy the American medical system through socialization. I might have questioned their sanity, but while it is un-American, it hardly rises to the level of treachery. "It's not traitorous to suggest the President has done a piss poor job in waging war in Iraq. Expressing your opinion that you wish we could return millions of innocent Iraqis to live in fear under a deadly tyrannical dictator is just odd, not traitorous. You have expressed many opinions that forward the cause of our enemies. If working to destroy our way of life and to undermine our freedoms is not treachery, then somebody had better apologize to Benedict Arnold.