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To: steve harris who wrote (360534)11/27/2007 11:50:06 PM
From: Ruffian  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575466
 
Bill Clinton Backtracks in Iowa, Says 'I Opposed Iraq' from Start

Tuesday, November 27, 2007

MUSCATINE, Iowa — Showing inconsistency on an issue that has dogged his wife, former President Bill Clinton told Iowa Democrats that he "opposed (war in) Iraq from the beginning."

Clinton was in Iowa on the campaign trail for his wife, Sen. Hillary Clinton.

On Iraq, he told the crowd that wealthy people like he and his wife should pay more taxes in times of war. "Even though I approved of Afghanistan and opposed Iraq from the beginning, I still resent that I was not asked or given the opportunity to support those soldiers," Clinton said.

He has not clearly opposed the war from the start. Like his wife, the former president has been critical of the Iraq war in recent months, but at one time he gave President Bush the benefit of the doubt. "I supported the president when he asked for authority to stand up against weapons of mass destruction in Iraq," he said in May 2003, the same year he was quoted praising Bush's handling of the war.

Sen. Clinton voted to authorize the war in Iraq, and has not apologized for her decision despite attacks from war opponents Sen. Barack Obama and John Edwards, according to a report in the Washington Post.

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Asked about the discrepancy, Clinton aides said Tuesday's comment was a short-handed explanation of his long-held views that weapons inspectors should have been given more time in Iraq. "As he said before the war and many times since, President Clinton disagreed with taking the country to war without allowing the weapons inspectors to finish their jobs," said spokesman Jay Carson.

His visit to Iowa marked the start of a battle of campaign surrogates _ Clinton vs. Winfrey, the former president stumping for his wife and media mogul Oprah Winfrey backing Sen. Hillary Clinton's chief rival, Barack Obama, in appearances scheduled for next week.

Hillary Clinton will bring America "back to the future," husband Bill says, promoting his own legacy in public life almost as much as his wife's presidential campaign.

His visit to Iowa marked the start of a battle of campaign surrogates _ Clinton vs. Winfrey, the former president stumping for his wife and media mogul Oprah Winfrey backing Sen. Clinton's chief rival, Barack Obama, in appearances scheduled for next week.

"Oprah vs. Bill! Now, there's a race," said Gail VanGundy, 59, an undecided voter who said the former president is a bigger draw for her than Winfrey.

"Both have star power," said Alfred Monroe, 76, as he awaited the former president's appearance in this eastern Iowa town.

Clinton himself said Winfrey ought to be for Obama because both hail from Chicago. He didn't mention that his wife is also from suburban Chicago. "I like Oprah Winfrey," he said. "We're friends."

Whether surrogates like Clinton and Winfrey sway voters is debatable, but operatives in both campaigns welcome their ability to draw crowds and attention in the closing days of a hotly contested race.

Speaking for more than an hour, Clinton discussed his wife's agenda and experience in exhaustive terms, sprinkling the remarks with asides about his presidency and his activities on the world stage since he left office in January 2001.

"I think she has proven in all these debates, and especially the last one, that she is the strongest, most reliable person that we could elect," the former president told more than 400 potential voters at a YMCA gym.

In three eastern Iowa stops, Clinton made a personal appeal for voters to back his wife. He said his opinion should matter because "I know what it takes to be president" and "because of the life I've lived since I left office."

He seemed to suggest that the nation needs a return to 1990s sensibilities.

"Here's why I think that she is the person to bring us the right kind of change that we need. First of all, what kind of change do we need? We need to get American back to the future. We need to get America back to the solutions business."

He said his wife has the experience to be president, noting among other things her work as Arkansas' first lady on behalf of school standards, her travels as the nation's first lady to 82 countries and her victory as a Senate candidate in several GOP counties in New York.

Left off his list of Sen. Clinton's experiences: her stewardship of the Clinton administration health care plan that failed in the 1990s.

"You need somebody who is strong, competent, has a good vision and never forgets what it's like to be you," Clinton said.

He pulled a pledge card out of his pocket, held it up to the crowd and asked people to caucus on his wife's behalf Jan. 3."The reason I want you to sign one of these cards is because I know her," he said. "I hope you make her the next president because she would be a great president and you would never, ever regret it."

The Associated Press contributed to this report.



To: steve harris who wrote (360534)11/28/2007 3:09:30 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1575466
 
Good grief.

You've already forgot about Chirac's riots? Burning hundreds of cars each night?


Apparently, its you who has forgotten the role Sarkozy played during those riots.

"His performance as a zero-tolerance, law-and-order interior minister for former President Jacques Chirac was much criticized by residents of France’s working- and lower-class suburbs, and during his presidential campaign he stayed away from the tough neighborhoods in the suburbs that were consumed by three weeks of violence in late 2005.

During the campaign last April, for example, he abruptly canceled a visit to a neighborhood of the eastern city of Lyon as 100 protesters gathered there. Some brandished signs that read, “Sarkozy, you are not welcome here,” others shouting, “Scum,” and “Karcher.”

The words “scum” and “Karcher” have come to be both identified with Mr. Sarkozy and emblematic of his difficult relationship with France’s ethnic Arab and African populations. In 2005, he vowed to clean out young troublemakers from one Paris suburb with a Karcher, the brand name of a high-powered hose used to wash off graffiti, and also pledged to rid poor neighborhoods of their “scum.”

He has never fulfilled his promise to return to Argenteuil, where he used the term “scum” and was pelted with bottles and rocks in 2005."


nytimes.com