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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: longnshort who wrote (17808)	11/29/2007 6:55:11 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

"Oh, and by the way, the U.N. says $40 billion of that will have to come from the U.S." What's that? 3 weeks in Iraq? We can't afford it? Cut the crap.

To: longnshort who wrote (17808)	11/29/2007 11:51:30 PM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

But what's really taking place is a massive shakedown in which our sympathies for the poor are being played while our pockets are being picked. The United Nations should be ashamed of itself. That's pretty funny. I wonder what they say about the shakedown by HAL and so many other companies in Iraq. Not to mention our virtuous military contractors even in peaceful times. Nothing like a clash between civilizations to shake the change loose.... Except in the case of climate change, there was a consensus among thousands of scientists in dozens of different countries, while in the case of Iraq, there was a consensus of politicians in a couple of countries along with bribed politicians in a oouple of dozen other countries.

To: longnshort who wrote (17808)	12/3/2007 1:20:38 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

20,000+ elitists to fly in private jets to tropical Bali where they will meet in chilly air-conditioned hotels and plot to reduce the living standards of the non-elite. If they were serious about there being a crisis, they wouldn't be flying tens of thousands of people to a tropical resort. Its about nothing but money. the United Nations, which released a green-themed Human Development Report just one week before the BALI meeting. "Unless the international community agrees to cut carbon emissions by half over the next generation," the report says (according to Reuters), "climate change is likely to cause large-scale human and economic setbacks and irreversible catastrophes." If that sounds terrifying, it's meant to. But there isn't a shred of science to back it up — only spurious "models" based on an incomplete picture of how nature and the climate work. .... The U.N. has bungled virtually every job it's been given — from peacekeeping in Africa to monitoring sanctions on Iraq. As an organization, it's rife with corruption and overpaid bureaucratic time-servers. They need a new mission, which always means American taxpayers will have to reach for their wallets. Which explains why the "Development Report" can claim that floods, droughts and other climate-related disasters "could stall and then reverse human development," robbing millions of food, schools and even shelter — unless, that is, rich nations pony up $86 billion by 2015 to help the poor adapt to global warming. Oh, and by the way, the U.N. says $40 billion of that will have to come from the U.S. Of course, the U.N. will oversee that money. The U.N.'s shrill warnings have reached a hysteric pitch — the equivalent of shrieking "fire" in a packed theater on the theory there might be one in the future. But what's really taking place is a massive shakedown in which our sympathies for the poor are being played while our pockets are being picked.