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To: c.hinton who wrote (250284)	12/2/2007 2:19:38 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

all i have to do is look at the change in temp of mediteranian water to know things are warming up....as to the reason, sure there is doubt ...but i dont see why we should sit and do nothing......air pollution is bad and even if temps dont go down cleaning up our act makes absolute sence esp if energy and land conservation is involved. and as you point out nobody can say for sure what the cause is...but they dont say what the cause is not either....so lets start bailing ...every bit might help. Let me get this straight. We don't know what's causing it, so we don't know what to do, but let's get out there and DO SOMETHING! Have I got that right? Doesn't make much sense when you put it that way, does it? But it's exactly what the proponents of Kyoto ARE saying. In effect, they want us (the rich countries, not the developing world) to pay trillions of dollars for an insurance policy which will pay out millions of dollars of benefits, if the models happen to turn out to be right. If not, the insurance policy may pay no benefit or even be counter-productive. This makes no sense whatsoever. It doesn't mean that there is nothing to be done. There are steps which cut down on fossil fuel use which have immediate benefit in cutting pollution (the old-fashioned kind that actually pollutes), lessening the dependence of the US and Europe on Mideast oil, and makes economic sense apart from global warming. We should take these steps. We shouldn't be railroaded into global warming hysteria by a clique of once and former Socialists whose aim is the creation of more transnational regulatory agencies that they can use for a power grab. ps just because one does not understand the process does not nean it is chaotic. infact patterns and cycles dont exist by definition in chaos. That's not correct ch. Go look up what a "chaotic system" means. It's a scientific term. The climate is a chaotic system and will remain one however well it is eventually understood.