To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (361108 ) 12/2/2007 3:48:29 PM From: bentway Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1574320 You didn't answer the question. How do Jeezuz principles align with (R) principles?geocities.com Jesus' main message: Jesus' main message was simple: "Blessed are you who are poor, for yours is the kingdom of God." (Lk6:20, also in Mt5:3). Notes: a) Both versions appear to be elaborated (see later on this page for "Luke" and The Q source for "Matthew"). The original "Q" version was probably like: "Blessed are the poor for theirs is the kingdom of God." b) John the Baptist (a poor by choice) might have suggested something in that direction, but could not have stressed it because his audience was very diverse. But it was Jesus, and not John the Baptist, who emphasized salvation (entry in the Kingdom): "This salvation which was first announced by the Lord [Jesus], was confirmed to us by whose who heard him." (Heb2:3b) Notes: a) In the whole "ground breaking" Hebrews' letter, this is the only thing about Jesus which is "confirmed" by eyewitnesses. However, the author did not give any details on what was announced by Jesus! b) There is only one more occurrence in this letter of Jesus/Christ/Lord being "heard" (this time allegedly by God) and it was "who, in the days of His flesh ..." (Heb5:7) Also, Jesus was emphasizing: "many who are first [the rich?] will be last, and the last [the poor?] first." (Mk10:31) Mk10:23 "... How hard it is for the rich to enter the kingdom of God!" Mk10:25 "It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." also in Mt19:23-24 & Lk18:24-25 Lk16:13b "... You cannot serve both God and money [or mammon: wealth regarded as source of evil]." also in Mt6:24b When meeting a young rich man (who, as implied by Mk10:23b, wanted to enter the Kingdom), Jesus said: Mk10:21-22 "... "Go, sell everything you have [get poor yourself] and give it to the poor ..." [10:22=>] But he was sad at this word, and went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions." also in Mt19:21-22 and Lk18:22 (Mk10:22 dropped!) Note: "The ancient Mediterranean attitude was, "Every rich person is either unjust or the heir of an unjust person" (St. Jerome: "Every rich person is a thief or the heir of a thief," In Hieremiam, II,V,2,CCL LXXIV 61). Profit-making and the acquisition of wealth were automatically assumed to be the result of extortion or fraud. The notion of an honest rich man was a first-century oxymoron. To be labeled "rich" was therefore a social and moral statement as much as an economic one. It meant the power or capacity to take from someone weaker what was rightfully his. Being rich was therefore synonymous with being greedy. By the same token, to be "poor" was to be unable to defend what was yours. It meant falling below the status at which one was born. It was to be defenseless, without recourse." georgetown.edu