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To: ChanceIs who wrote (96145)	12/3/2007 4:38:37 PM
From: 10K a day	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

I think you can tatoo that 11% on citi groups forehead.

To: ChanceIs who wrote (96145)	12/3/2007 4:48:20 PM
From: Sr K	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

The 8.375% is a 5-yr teaser. <<and Freddie Mac (FRE) issued $6 billion of 8.375% perpetual preferred>> After 2012 it goes to 3 mo LIBOR + 4.16 with a floor at 7.875 percent. That would be about 9.30 today.

To: ChanceIs who wrote (96145)	12/3/2007 9:16:32 PM
From: saveslivesbyday	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

"they want to shrink their balance sheets by Dec. 31" What many are forgetting or not realizing is that financial institutions need to reconcile thier balance sheets by the end of the year. I suspect many accountants will use the "E-trade 27% rule" as a guide to mark-to-market. If so, it will lead to disastrous, horrible earnings for many banks and brokerages.