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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (110536)	12/4/2007 8:15:10 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

This keeps getting more and more ridiculous. Now, not only did no one named Jesus exist, but maybe Paul didn't either. there is no certainty that Paul really lived. There's no certainty your great grand parents lived either. All claims to the contrary could have been cleverly manufactured using your own arguments. Some of you atheists are so desparate it isn't enough to claim Jesus wasn't who Christians say he was, you have to believe he didn't even exist as a human being. How pathetic. ---------------------------- The real Paul, while he didn't know Jesus himself, wrote about Jesus's brothers and his disciples whom he did know.

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (110536)	1/2/2008 3:30:07 PM
From: JeffA	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

The very existence of Paul is questionable. But for the purpose of my argument, I am going to admit that Paul really lived; that he was a zealous apostle; and that all the Epistles are from his pen.,....... For this silence, there can be only one honest explanation -- the story of the virgin birth had not yet been invented when Paul wrote. Yeah a guy they don't think exists, is now cited as a de facto proof that the virgin birth is not true. Good argument structure there.