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To: carranza2 who wrote (250456)	12/3/2007 11:05:12 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

It's really Israel's problem in any case. Let them deal with it. Iran is not threat to the US. Other than trash talk for the Muslim audience, they're no threat to Israel either.

To: carranza2 who wrote (250456)	12/4/2007 1:01:12 AM
From: Nadine Carroll	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 281500

I smell politics, not intelligence gathering and assessment, at play. Unfortunately, there is no way for us, the great unwashed, to make any kind of reasonable assessment of the merits of any of these NIE's. You too, hmm? There have been too many smoking guns found in the past for anyone to doubt that the Iran had/has a nuclear weapons program, whether or not it is current "halted". Perhaps "paused" would be a better word. I think somebody just wants to make sure Bush can't move, which only makes it more likely that the next president will have to. Somewhat ironically, and against all CW, I believe that the next president with the greatest propensity to attack is Hillary. She will have what to prove concerning her toughness, and Bill's feckless record to live down. And no military experience to temper her judgement.

To: carranza2 who wrote (250456)	12/4/2007 8:37:57 AM
From: michael97123	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 281500

Or the tail is wagging the dog or maybe the dog is finally wagging the tail. Perhaps this signifies a change of policy that will lead to accomodation in iraq and a general improvement in relations with iran. Iran doesnt need nukes and some have always believed the threat of nukes had more to do with restoring normal relations between them and the west. Perhaps in a very strange way policies have worked. And you mention syria too. What if the israeli attack and subsequent events such as syrias participation in annapolis is leading to normalization there as well? If bush leaves office with libya, North Korea, iran and syria rejoining the family of nations, albeit not as perfect partners, & al quaeda driven out iraq, it will be a major accomplishment. Also, if pakistani democracy proves more robust than expected, we can finally get back to the point of post 9/11 policy and thats finally routing out al quaeda in their safe areas. mike@morningoptimism.com