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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Brumar89 who wrote (17970)	12/4/2007 2:40:31 PM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36923

A common theme by the denialists on this thread is the constant whine of a loser. I watched a natural history program some months ago about some USA scientists that suggested that humans migrated to America from Europe before Columbus. For some considerable time anyone suggesting such a thing had their reputations seriously trashed including being sacked without possibility of finding another position. It takes guts to be a proper scientist at times. crystalinks.com I don't really care what the final outcome of the discussion on the migrations to the Americas is, once plain ignorance is not the deciding factor. Hopefully, now, alternative theories to Columbus being the first European to visit the Americas can be discussed without losing ones job. I expect many hopefuls thought of scientific theories resembling that of gravity before, during, and after Newtons contribution. The world is an unfair place though, it's this one that is the accepted work on the subject of gravity and the laws of motion in classical physics. members.tripod.com Similarly, Einstein wasn't the only guy who thought of relativity and time being a non constant, but it was Einsteins work that was hammer that enlightened the dimmer lights on the subject. Nobody "stole" anyones idea. Some did the work and became famous, others may have contributed, and maybe had their work judged unfairly, but frankly I very much doubt you or I are the guys worthy of doing the judging. The theory of evolution was a most contentious subject because of it's implications to early 19th century accepted knowledge and the implications to the religious powers in place at the time. It's publication was bound to cause a big upset, and anyone who backed it was going to be in some rough political water and the implications to ones health and fortune were serious.... no matter how well heeled you were. I just asked a group of 3rd year Biology undergraduates if they heard of Darwin. Answer: "Yes". Alfred Russell Wallace ?. Answer: "Who? William yes, Alfred no ... didn't he burn some cakes or something". so that is how the cookie crumbles. Charles Darwin did do some work on Finches that may be worth a mention... anthro.palomar.edu /snippet Darwin identified 13 species of finches in the Galápagos Islands. This was puzzling since he knew of only one species of this bird on the mainland of South America, nearly 600 miles to the east, where they had all presumably originated. He observed that the Galápagos species differed from each other in beak size and shape. He also noted that the beak varieties were associated with diets based on different foods. He concluded that when the original South American finches reached the islands, they dispersed to different environments where they had to adapt to different conditions. Over many generations, they changed anatomically in ways that allowed them to get enough food and survive to reproduce. /end snippet. I guess he could have made it all up though... to make it look as if he did something else apart from just sit and gather in the sun.