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To: old tx oiler who wrote (1311)	12/7/2007 11:31:07 AM
From: bagwajohn	Respond to of 1564

I don't think I've used one, and I don't know if it has been discussed. And, OT kind of; BP is a big problem in this country for sure. I've tried three different BP meds, and only HCTZ has helped. I had to stop taking the Lisinopril, because within two days my ankles swelled up; I had to stop taking the DiovanHCT after a month because I developed joint and body aches so bad I could hardly pick up a glass of water. So a year later, I'm on a mild herbal discipline of Feverfew, (a mild vasodilator), Ginkgo, (a mild blood thinner), small doses 3 times a day, and at night I add Valerian. Exercise, (using a rebounder with dumbells), and a cleaner diet. Its dropping, and it is encouraging. The meds are harsh on some folks. Eventually I hope to be able (as the exercise does its thing) to withdraw from so many herbal doses a day. I'd love to plant a Ginkgo tree, but they get huge, pretty though, (I may do it anyway) and feverfew grows easily in the yard. As much Hawthorn as grows around here, I should check into when to harvest the berries and what to do with them. We need to get back to the land, imo. I am not recommending this as advice. I am not a doctor, but I am looking for alternatives and that requires a large amount of personal responsibility for my own actions. Have a pleasant day everybody.

To: old tx oiler who wrote (1311)	12/7/2007 12:45:03 PM
From: Ken Adams	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1564

You're talking about a Resp@rator. This is an Israeli product and I've owned one for a couple years. It works by assisting you to slow your breathing. You put on a set of ear speakers, turn on the machine and it measures your rate of inspiration and expiration and displays that so you can record a starting place. It then proceeds, over a 15 minute time span, to slow your breathing by pacing you with a pleasant sounding tone. One to inhale, a different one to exhale. Over the 15 minutes, these tones get farther apart and by the end, you're only breathing a few times a minute. This opposed to 12 or 15 times at the beginning. Bottom line, it works well to lower BP, rather dramatically, which I always checked before and after. I quit using it because without my Rx each day, the treatment had no lasting ability. I lost weight, pay more attention to my diet and, with the meds, I'm in the area of 130/70, give or take. Incidentally, I have a church friend who ran the respiratory lab at a huge hospital nearby. I asked her about this and she confirmed there is validity here. But, she also confirmed it doesn't last, even if done daily, as I did.