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To: Sea Otter who wrote (72062)	12/7/2007 12:43:05 AM
From: Sea Otter	Respond to of 116555

And apologies to the board and Mish. I'll confine myself to economic posts now, not this ooga- booga stuff.

To: Sea Otter who wrote (72062)	12/7/2007 1:16:55 AM
From: roguedolphin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 116555

We've never sent a man to the moon and most likely not further than 300-400 miles from the surface of the earth ever..... This "historic Apollo footage" alone PROVES it (if you watch carefully and understand what's going on).... youtube.com I could post endless amount of proof man never went to the moon during Apollo but this is not the forum.....but the video above ALONE is a brutal punch to the gut for believers! I'm not going to let my beliefs get in the way of the facts no matter what. This is my last post here on this. There's "no glory for me" in this....just the pursuit of the truth whatever that may be. I'm not too happy about this. I've always been fascinated about the moon landing, NASA, space travel.....but after years and years of digging into the details and learning and finding the awful truth.... it's bittersweet for me. I wanted to believe....but so so much has led me to believe otherwise. By the way....I posted this video below as a humorous joke(get it??). But there is probably an "element of the truth" to what it portrays and wants you to think about. Moon Landing??? ca.youtube.com ROFLMAO!!!

To: Sea Otter who wrote (72062)	12/7/2007 1:58:16 AM
From: pogohere	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 116555

"vaccine scares" This is where we began. And you haven't cited anything about the particulars of that case. The moon thing and the other vaccine stuff was raised by you. So, you got rocks from somewhere, photos of someplace- but none of the landing site taken with off-moon equipment (easily done) --and testimony. (Remember the weapons of mass destruction? Lots of testimony. Good enuf for a war, huh? Why not for science?) There's no need for evidence. No need for replicability. I have it all backwards: I'm just short a little koolade. No, don't bother with Hubble or with Japan's HDTV capabilities in real time. You've got me figured out: I'm so unreasonable that I'd claim these were faked. And I never once claimed the moon landing wasn't true--I just asked where's the scientific evidence. There, that takes care of that. You settled it with what you believe. Whew, I'm relieved and it's youtube.com

To: Sea Otter who wrote (72062)	12/7/2007 1:46:04 PM
From: benwood	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 116555

What I want to know is, with tens of thousands of eye witnesses watching the Saturn V rocket blast into outer space, how did they pull off the amazing feat of secretly landing that rocket, or part of it, in the Arizona desert by the warehouse where they staged the orbiter flying to the moon and faked the landing and simulated walking on the moon? And how did they secretly launch from there and land in the Pacific Ocean? I lived in Arizona at that time, and I swear, I'd have noticed something that big and loud sneaking into space atop a 200' jet of flame. Especially at night when sneaking around is popular. Seriously, that "conspiracy" would have been far more difficult to pull off then just landing on the moon. It takes an incredible wealth of ignorance to believe some of that stuff. btw, I work with a guy who was on the Navy ship that recovered Apollo 13. Although he's been here for 20+ years, I'm beginning to suspect he's a plant.