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To: miraje who wrote (230917)	12/8/2007 11:42:11 AM
From: Bridge Player	Respond to of 793955

But by far the top priority for me is economic, along with the makeup of the Supreme Court. The prospect of any Democrat taking the White House next year gives me the cold chills... Indeed. I totally agree.

To: miraje who wrote (230917)	12/8/2007 1:06:58 PM
From: miraje	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793955

What a bunch of gullible brainwashed children. Some of the comments in the below article are beyond idiocy and descend into lunacy. It's worldwide. And I don't see any way to counteract the unrelenting, hysterical ecofreak media onslaught. Sanity has been steamrolled... hosted.ap.org World Climate Change Protests Kick Off By RAPHAEL G. SATTER Associated Press Writer LONDON (AP) -- Skiers, fire-eaters and an ice sculptor joined in worldwide demonstrations Saturday to draw attention to climate change and push their governments to take stronger action to fight global warming. From costume parades in Manila to a cyclist's protest in London, marches were held in more than 50 cities around the world to coincide with the two-week U.N. Climate Change Conference, which runs through Friday in Bali, Indonesia. Hundreds of people rallied in the Philippines wearing miniature windmills atop hats, or framing their faces in cardboard cutouts of the sun. "We are trying to send a message that we are going to have to use renewable energy sometime, because the environment, we need to really preserve it," high school student Samantha Gonzales said at the rally in the capital, Manila. "We have to act now." (I wonder what little Sammie thinks about Indonesian rainforests being logged, burned and destroyed to make room for "renewable" palm oil bio-diesel plantations?) In Taipei, Taiwan, about 1,500 people marched through the streets holding banners and placards saying "No to carbon dioxide." (These morons obviously don't know that they'd be dead without it) Hundreds marched outside the conference center in Bali. At a Climate Rescue Carnival held in a park in Auckland, New Zealand, more than 350 people lay on the grass to spell out "Climate SOS." At the Brandenburg Gate in Berlin, ice sculpture artist Christian Funk carved a polar bear out of 15 tons of ice as a memorial to climate protection. Christmas markets throughout Germany were switching off the lights, and British cyclists pedaled into Parliament Square in London. In Helsinki, Finland, about 50 demonstrators ground their skis across the asphalt along the main shopping street, calling for decision makers to give them their snowy winters back.(Unreal.. "I want my winter back! Mommy, fix my winters! WAAAAHHH!") Fire-eaters blew billowing clouds of flame as demonstrators in Athens and other Greek cities demanded decisive action, while protesters sang environmentally inspired songs in the Norwegian capital of Oslo. Former Vice President Al Gore, who is in Oslo to attend the Nobel Peace Prize awards ceremony on Monday, did not plan to take part in the protests, his spokeswoman Kalee Kreider told the Associated Press. In London, demonstrators braved the cold, rainy December weather (a big LOL!) to descend on Parliament Square, wielding signs marked: "There is no Planet B." Bikers circled the square earlier in the morning to protest the city's traffic and its effect on global warming, organizers said. The London protest has singled out one particular target - President Bush - calling his administration the biggest obstacle to progress at the Bali talks. Organizers plan to underline the point by ending the protest in front of the U.S. Embassy. "Bush has been forced to change his language on climate, but continues to be the major obstacle to progress," said Britain's Campaign against Climate Change. "We will not just stand by and allow Bush - or anyone else - to wreck the global effort to save billions of lives from climate catastrophe."(What a load of unmitigated bull****) Washington has found itself increasingly isolated at the climate talks. The U.S. position that technology and private investment - not mandatory emissions cuts - will save the planet has come in for a beating. But Americans were just as active in planning to protest Saturday. In Fairbanks, Alaska, U.S. activists prepared to make "polar bear" plunges into icy cold bodies of water.

To: miraje who wrote (230917)	12/8/2007 1:21:45 PM
From: Bearcatbob	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793955

"For me, social issues are almost immaterial. The war and Moslem terrorists are a bit more important. But by far the top priority for me is economic, along with the makeup of the Supreme Court. The prospect of any Democrat taking the White House next year gives me the cold chills... " I largely agree. Social issues are important to me but I feel we have largely lost on that issue. We need to get the money right and stop the leftist slide. Hillary could make Bill look like Barry Goldwater.

To: miraje who wrote (230917)	12/8/2007 1:22:42 PM
From: MrLucky	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793955

For me, social issues are almost immaterial. Concur. Social issues are fluff given the expansion of terrorism in the world today. Social worries like GW is a Gore legacy objective and the liberal's new drug of choice. Security is the number one issue of this country. Without a secure nation, all else becomes irrelevant. Ask an Iraqi who fled to Syria if his/her country's security is important. Ask an female who hides from the Taliban in Afghanistan if freedom and security are important. Ask a family member, of a 9/11 victim, if the elimination of GW would have saved their loved one. Unfortunately, too many treat their vote for security as a secondary or minor issue. Voters in Spain did. The French did, although new hope now exists with Nicolas Sarkozy at the helm. My second issue is a strong, common sense USSC which is willing to protect the Constitution versus emasculating it.