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To: Pogeu Mahone who wrote (110136)	12/9/2007 10:57:17 AM
From: Freedom Fighter	Respond to of 132070

zues, >>it will be a cold day in hell before the U.S. intelligence service understands anything better then the Mossad.< If you were any more of a fool, I'd be hard pressed to prevent myself from hurting myself from all the laughter. You are making my point exactly, but you are too much of biased fool to even realize it! You are so worried about bashing me in between your broad despicable Catholic Church bashing posts you don't even realize it. I said the same thing. I also believe it's possible we are wrong now because Israel is saying they have evidence to the contrary. I said that 3-4 times. That's exactly 100% why I keep saying the intelligence failings of the U.S. are the issue!!!!! The intelligence was wrong on Iraq and the same group was either wrong on Iran in its last report or is wrong now in this report. That much is unquestioned. One error lead us into war and the second (depending on which report on Iran is wrong) could have caused a second war or could cause us to make other important strategic errors going forward. Yet despite these important issues and questions, there are idiots out there trying to score political points about Bush's rhetoric instead of worrying about what's actually going on in Iran, what it means for us, and why the intelligence community can't ever get it right. Really man, set aside your emotions and try thinking for once in your life.

To: Pogeu Mahone who wrote (110136)	12/9/2007 5:09:26 PM
From: nickfrombrooklyn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 132070

zeus628, I've been lurking here for a long time. I'm not sure I understand the hostility towards Wayne on this thread. Perhaps, he makes his case too well at times and that ruffles some feathers. As far as I can tell, his only bias is that he admires free markets, small government, non interference of government in people's private lives, and non interference of government in foreign politics. Those philosophies often put him in sync with republicans, but when they don't or he finds their actions debatable, he says so. Even though I don't agree with him on every issue, his lack of political bias is pretty clear. The same is not true of his critics like you and those that recommended your childish personal attack. They often appear unable or unwilling to acknowledge the validity of his counter points because of their loyalty to party and agenda instead of truth. When the frustration grows at his ability to counter, he is then attacked personally and called an idiot by people like you. I think he's a pretty bright guy and a good counter weight to the politics of this thread. I would take your advice and leave though. No one here wants to listen to the other side of the story, not even when it is correct. I have to add, I thought he was quite restrained during the debate over Catholic priests and abuse. Not only was his view supported by the statistics and personal experience, many others wouldn't have been nearly as tolerant of your own verbal abuse and bigotry. The other 99% of good Catholic priests he told you about must have taught him well.