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To: one_less who wrote (251241)	12/11/2007 7:34:17 PM
From: Nadine Carroll	Respond to of 281500

Our mission is not to defeat Iraq but to support its current government toward a secure and relatively stable nation. If that's the mission then that is victory. Clearly we have been fighting forces whose mission is to destabilize and destroy the government of Iraq.

To: one_less who wrote (251241)	12/12/2007 9:16:20 AM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 281500

Bravo Gem. I was writing just about the same thing but looked at your response before i sent it. We are in 100% agreement. Yesterday i made the point that the original neoncon view was to be tough with the soviets and not to turn detente into surrender. It was never about going to war with them--it was all about deterrence. With iraq, the new neocons saw low hanging fruit. Sure we would all be praising them now if iraq turned into a true democracy. But the preconditions for democracy are not there yet and perhaps the makings of an iraqi democracy of sorts are being forged now. They need some US protection to enable this but the US cannot and should not committ to open ended involvement in their civil war which thank God has not happened as predicted. The neoncons were wrong on low hanging fruit and the left is wrong about inevitable civil war.