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Microcap & Penny Stocks : Naked Shorting-Hedge Fund & Market Maker manipulation? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: dvdw© who wrote (3087)	12/13/2007 4:43:35 PM
From: makeuwonder	Respond to of 5034

I wonder how we can make this work out for the average citizen. It seems like it only ends up good for others and the actual money never gets to the people from which it was taken. For example this is out of context but a look at how things go. There was a settlement for tobacco companies that gave governments billions of dollars. Call your reps and ask them if you can get free patches to help you quit smoking out of that money?? No way. They know the market can make more money off us selling us products to try to help us get off a seriously addictive situation. Why?? Why don't they give you anything you want that might help you break away from one of the worst things a kid can start to do. I was 12. If they break this up are the brokers, bankers or will it be the SEC and DTCC that reaps the rewards after they aided keeping one of the biggest scams of the century on the middle class investing public. WE CAN TRACK THE MONEY. GET IT BACK DAMN IT AND BUY BACK THE SHARES THAT YOU ARE "NAKED SHORTED". You took the risk, pay the piper. We would have to cover our short positions. They must be made to cover theirs. The part that makes me sick is it takes a wealthy person to get anyone to hear. WHY????

To: dvdw© who wrote (3087)	12/19/2007 7:14:38 AM
From: NightOwl	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5034

Very interesting DVDW. Isn't this the natural result of a Broker/Dealer/Banker dominated "system?" Or to put it another way... do you think its caused by some sort of misguided industry/government "policy" whose primary goal is to employ this artificial balance to (a) smoothing out otherwise painful gyrations in the markets while (b) allowing the huge concentration of wealth in the Broker/Dealer/Banker sector as "just compensation" for the service? My perceptions may be incorrect but I see all this as having been enabled by the ultimate melding of the Chicago school of economics, with Greenspeak un-regulation, and the computer age? How could self-interested human beings in our financial "system" produce anything else given such a backdrop? Of course this "policy," (a) above, will likely fail at some point, and the actions of those compensated ,(b) above, for avoiding that outcome will likely be a major contributing cause... but is this not typical of "system" manager/controllers at all times and places? Andrew Jackson lost the fight... the Broker/Dealer/Bankers have been in control ever since... and now they can no longer keep the markets humming without huge doses of derivative "steroids" and stock-IOU "HGH." There simply isn't enough real asset value left to keep them a float, so they do whatever is required to pump up the transaction volumes. 0\|0