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To: FJB who wrote (11140)12/15/2007 9:14:22 AM
From: Ichy Smith  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20106
 
That is very disturbing. You have to assume that he is not retarded, since he is a doc. However, he is not smart enough to avoid brainwashing from Al Queda(in Iraq no less). That really degrades my hope for them.

Nevertheless, I continue to hold the belief that doing the right or wrong thing is always an easy decision.


I don't agree. Because in society particularly North American society we take a while to adjust to the last ones in, there is a period where they feel no one will hire them and no one likes them. Add that to the problem that many groups don't intermingle, and in Islams case they live apart from the rest and it is easy to believe that "this isn't our fault, they discriminate." Having assumed that your lack of success can be blamed on the massive rest of society, going to a place where Islam rules and finding out that things are incredibly worse than in your new country means that someone has to be to blame. And if it isn't Islam (Islam is perfection remember) it must be the same SOB who oppress you at home.

So it is easy to persuade a young and educated Muslim that the basis of his life, his religion is not at fault but rather it is the oppression of the west, or the Jews, or anyone but Islam....
That is the easy decision.

"Wow is my religion, my lifestyle, my heritage ever f*cked up." is much more difficult..... Ask the Irish, who for years blamed the British.



To: FJB who wrote (11140)12/15/2007 1:52:42 PM
From: Proud_Infidel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 20106
 
Bhutto: Fatal bomb was rigged to baby
Washington Times ^ | December 14, 2007 | Betsy Pisik

washingtontimes.com

MARDAN, Pakistan — The bomb that ravaged Benazir Bhutto's homecoming processional in October appears to have been rigged to the clothes of a baby who was held up for the former prime minister to embrace, Mrs. Bhutto said.

A man approached her armored truck, Mrs. Bhutto recounted, and was trying to hand across a small child as her motorcade inched through the thronged streets of Karachi. She remembers gesturing for the man to come closer.

"It was about 1 or 2 years old, and I think it was a girl," Mrs. Bhutto told The Washington Times in her first public remarks about the baby.

"We feel it was a baby, kidnapped, and its clothes were rigged with explosives. He kept trying to hand it to people to hand to me. I'm a mother, I love babies, but the [streetlights] had already gone out, and I was worried about the baby getting dropped or hurt."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ....



To: FJB who wrote (11140)12/16/2007 10:40:49 AM
From: Proud_Infidel  Respond to of 20106
 
Indonesian Probe into Church Closures (108 since 2004)
Islam Online ^ | December 15 2007

islamonline.net

CAIRO — Indoneisa's National Commission on Human Rights (Komnas-HAM) said on Saturday, December 15, it will investigate a Christian complaint about alleged forced closures of churches in the West Java Province, The Jakarta Post reported Saturday, December 15. Komnas-HAM chief Yoseph Adi said the complaint were submitted Friday by Rev. Andreas A. Yewangoe, chief of the Communion of Indonesian Churches (PGI), and Bishop Mgr. Martinus D. Situmorang, Chairman of the Indonesian Bishops Conference (KWI).

In their complaint, the protestant and catholic bishops claimed that 108 churches have been forcibly closed, ransacked, threatened or burned down since 2004.

They further accused local officials and Islamic groups of being involved in church closures in the predominately-Muslim West Java province, which is Indonesia's most populous province with 35.72-million population.

Komnas-HAM was initially established by a Presidential Decree in June 1993, but six years later its legal status was changed to be an independent institution for the sake of objectivity.

It is the only institution in Indonesia having the competence to probe violations of human rights, according to Komnas-HAM website.

The commission reports to the House of Representatives of the Republic of Indonesia for follow up action.

Unauthorized

Officials have argued that places of worship have been closed because the buildings were not authorized to be used as churches, Reuters reported.

Under a national decree, a house of worship for any religion can be built if it is approved by at least 60 surrounding residents and the congregation has at least 90 members.

But locals and Muslim organizations in the province had complained that Christians illegally turn their homes and shops into churches without their approval in accordance with the national decree.

They said this had provoked sensibilities of Muslims in the region and prompted furious residents to close the self-styled churches.

Christians account for some 10 percent of the 230 million population of predominantly (88 percent) Muslim Indonesia, according to official statistics.

Indonesia is a tolerant multi-ethnic and multi-cultural country.

It has recently unveiled Asia's tallest Jesus Christ statue in its North Sulawesi Province.



To: FJB who wrote (11140)12/17/2007 9:40:13 PM
From: Proud_Infidel  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 20106
 
Accused Jihadist: We Were Hunting Loch Ness Monster (Religion of Peace)
Jihad Watch ^ | December 16, 2007 | Jihad Watch

jihadwatch.org

Accused jihadist: We were hunting Loch Ness Monster

Uh huh. And then when they went to find Bigfoot, they inadvertently left some explosives in the trunk of their car....

"Terror Accused: We Were Hunting Loch Ness Monster," by Paul O'Hare for the Daily Record (thanks to Twostellas):

AN ELECTRICIAN accused of being a Muslim holy warrior claimed he was hunting Nessie during an alleged jihad training course. Somali-born Kader Ahmed, 20, told a court he went on a trip arranged by preacher Mohammed Hamid, 50, to Scotland at Christmas 2004.

He said they visited Inverness and Loch Ness and added: "I'd never been to Scotland before. It was very cold when we went up. It was snowing.

"It was very beautiful as well. I had never seen reindeer before."

He said they stopped near Loch Ness for a few days, sleeping in their minibus as it was too cold to camp, and tried to spot the elusive monster.

Ahmed, from east London, admits going on camping trips and paintballing sessions with Hamid's group, who included four of the men later convicted of the plot to bomb London on July 21, 2005.

But the trainee electrician, who was 17 when he met Hamid, told Woolwich Crown Court he assumed it was harmless fun "like Scouts or Cadets".

(Excerpt) Read more at jihadwatch.org ....