To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (363234 ) 12/17/2007 2:27:23 PM From: combjelly Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577886 Again, where did I say anything about taking from hoarders and giving it to others? I just pointed out economic facts. I said nothing about what you claim I said. "The only debate is which kind, i.e. the free-market kind or the socialist kind." You might think you have shifted the debate to that. next time you want to change the subject, why not be honest about it? "But where is the money coming from?" Why is it important? "It comes from either taxes, which represents a drag on the free market (read one of your economics textbooks if you don't understand that), or deficit spending, which is essentially a tax pushed out into the future." The latter is true. The former, not so much. Sure, some money is taken out, but then it is put back into the system. You are taking a very simplistic view of economics. "In other words, it is NOT "letting the market do its thing."" Sure it is. The bottom line is people with money in their pockets. Now true, how it gets there can have different impacts. But different isn't a uniform negative. "You know, you could always ask, rather than assume that I don't know economics, or that I'm going into the "realm of religion."" Sorry, Tench. If you show ignorance about basic economic principles, I have to assume you don't know much about it. Likewise, when you start talking about the free market when it has nothing to do with the issue, then I have to assume religion. This whole discussion started with your peculiar stance that the tax cuts stimulated the economy while the deficit did not. To take that stance means you don't understand the issues. To claim that economics is not primarily about the circulation of money in exchange for goods and services definitely drags religion into the issue.