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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Sam who wrote (18696)12/19/2007 7:18:55 PM
From: Maurice Winn  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 36921
 
Sam, the trends are not at all clear. If all you count are the weather days in which the dreaded Greenhouse Effect can be blamed, then yes. But look at the awful snow storms recently. Or are those due to excess heat too? Everything is caused by Greenhouse Effect, whether it's hotter, colder, wetter, drier, windier, calmer, overcast or sunny according to the doomsters.

If emissions of CO2 stopped today, you would find a rapid drop in CO2 levels because as happens when spring comes in the northern hemisphere, plants start sucking CO2 in bulk. That's why the Hawaii graph of CO2 levels goes up and down each year.

With CO2 not being replaced, the balance of CO2 would fall again.

CO2 does NOT last 100 years in the atmosphere. If you do a CO2 balance, you will see that plants and oceans strip it out pretty quickly. If all the CO2 people had produced was still there, levels would be much higher. It's like filling a leaky bucket = the faster we fill it, the quicker it drains out.

Look how quickly CO2 levels drop each year. That shows how quickly it's absorbed.

Mqurice



To: Sam who wrote (18696)12/19/2007 9:27:07 PM
From: neolib  Respond to of 36921
 
The squabble that is now going on between GA and AL/FL is nothing compared to what will come well before we get to 450ppm, IMHO, whether we get there by 2030, 2040 or 2060.

At some point it will occur to Karl Rove's successor that whichever political party "owns" the green mantle is going to win elections resoundingly, and then you will see the right embrace green with alacrity. It will be amusing to watch.