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To: the navigator who wrote (6785)	12/20/2007 6:40:42 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 24228

I think I still have more; I've got a bunch of e-mails from him. I'll do some homework. He posted this on TOD today. I'm really concerned that answers are being given prior to answering the prime question: What am I preparing for? Is it for a week? A few months? A year? Forever? There are many similar questions that also have to be asked before taking action but TOD isn't the place to go into a disertation on survival. But, FWIW, here is what the LDS Church suggests for two people fo a year (I'm not Mormon BTW but they have some excellent information at providentliving.org .) I don't agree with every part of their list but that's how it goes. Group 1: Grains wheat - 305# Enriched white flour - 31# Corn Meal - 57# Rolled oats - 77# Enriched white rice - 135# Pearled barley - 7# Spaghetti - 67# Group 2: Legumes Dry beans - 90# Dry lima beans - 4# Dry split peas - 4# Dry lentils - 4# Dry soup mix - 14# Group 3: Fats ans oils Cooking oil - 10 quarts Shortening - 4q Mayonnaise - 2q Salad dressing (mayo type) - 2q Peanut butter - 2q Group 4: Milk Group Nonfat dry milk - 28# Evaporated milk - 24 - 12oz cans Group 5: Sugars Granulated sugar - 80# Brown sugar - 6# Molasses - 2# Homsy - 6# Corn syrup - 6# Jams/preserves - 10# Powdered fruit drink - 12# Flavored gelatin - 2# Group 6: Miscellaneous Salt - 16# Dry yeast - 1# Baking soda - 2# Baking powder - 2# Water - 28 gallons (This is one of the items I simply can't believe!) Personally, I'd suggest buying a copy of Making the Best of Basics. It has lots of lists and ideas. As far as crops go, I've grown stuff for 40 years and one thing I have learned is that you have to test varieties; you can't trust the blurb in the catalog. During this time we have probably tested 30 varieties of tomatoes, 18 of sweet corn, 6 of field corn, 12 of canteloupe, 12 of water melons, etc. People who simply buy a pack of seed and expect to see a miracle are likely to be disapointed. That's enough for now or I'll turn this into a survival forum. Todd