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To: Wharf Rat who wrote (251851)12/21/2007 11:18:50 AM
From: Ruffian  Respond to of 281500
 
Kyoto Protocol: Bad Policy Based on Bad Science
Why Isn't the Administration Telling Us the Truth about the Science Behind this Treaty?
Tomorrow is Earth Day. The President may choose to celebrate the event by signing
the Kyoto Protocol on Global Climate Change. Yet, more than 15,000 scientists signed a
petition urging the U.S. government to reject the Kyoto treaty and any other similar proposal.
Of the engineers, scientists, economists and other signatories of the petition, more than 40
percent hold doctorate degrees in their field. What's their reason for opposition? As they say:
uThere is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon
dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the
foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and
disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific
evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial
effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of Earth."
And, so why would this Administration insist on holding the obviously flawed Kyoto
protocol in such high public esteem? [See, also, a separate RPC paper, uThe Gang That
Couldn't Talk Straight Rides Again: Administration Contradicts its Own Estimates of Kyoto
Treaty's Costs," 4/21/98, addressing the flawed economic assumptions behind the protocol.]
What is the consensus in the scientific community on whether human activity is
contributing to the warming of our climate? There is none. But, there is plenty of evidence to
suggest that warming and cooling of our climate is something that has gone on for a very long
time and likely will continue to go on
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with human actions perhaps playing a limited role.
What Does The Science Say?
Supporters of the climate change calamity theory gather strength from the 1995
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Summary for Policymakers, which said in part
u...The
balance of evidence suggests a discernable human influence on global climate." In
fact, though, the 2,500 IPICC scientists did not contribute to or endorse the six-page Summary
for Policymakers." Indeed, there is evidence that the 1995 IPCC report was doctored to
conform with the policy judgments contained in the Summary. Professor Frederick Seitz
wrote in the Wall Street Journal on June 12, 1996, 'In my more than 60 years as a member of
the American scientific community, including service as president of both the National
Academy of Sciences and the American Physical Society, I have never witnessed a more
disturbing corruption of ihe peer-review process than the events that led to this IPCC report."
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Dr. Seitz goes on in his article to note several deletions from
the approved Chapter 8 draft that
expressed doubts about "a discernable human influence" by
scientists participating in the IPCC
review process. They are:
1. 'None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence
that we can attribute the
observed [climate] changes to the specific cause of increases
in greenhouse gases."
2. "No study to date has positively attributed all or part
[of the climate change observed to
date] to anthropogenic [man-made] causes."
3. 'Any claims of positive detection of significant climate
change are likely to remain
controversial until uncertainties in the total natural variability
of the climate system are reduced."
As a result of such manipulation of information, many
in the scientific community have
concluded that the report was altered to support the conclusions
obtained by the "Summary for
Policymakers" solely for political purposes.
Nowhere does the IPCC summary actually claim temperatures
would rise between 1.8 and 6.3
degrees Fahrenheit over the next century. Rather, these numbers
are the results of assumed scenarios
and assumed climate responses from model calculations,
according to Dr. Fred Singer in an article in
the Washington Times on July 1, 1997. Dr. Singer goes on to say, "The report
itself (page 434)
specifically disclaims that studies of climate patterns can
'quantify the magnitude' of a green house
gas effect on climate."
A review of the scientific literature measuring historical
changes in the earth's climate reveals
no genuinely long-term, consistent rise in temperature. Indeed,
such a review indicates that Earth's
temperature has varied over time up and down
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gradually. A recent article in Science on February
27, 1998, noted,
"
The record shows that temperature variations are far greater during
glacial periods
(ice ages) than during interglacial periods. North Atlantic sea temperatures,
for example, varied by as
much as 3 to 4.5 degrees C during glacial periods 450,000
and 350,000 years ago, while they only
varied by about 0.5 to 1 degree C during the interglacial period
which fell in between."
The Kyoto Protocol is a Solution in Search of a Problem
If there is no convincing evidence that Earth's climate is changing
drastically, and, if there is
no discernable evidence that human activity is causing our planet's temperature
to rise, why then the
urgency? Perhaps because, as H.L. Mencken noted, "the
urge to save humanity is almost always a
false front for the urge to rule." This administration's policy on the matter
of climate change is an
urge to rule how people use energy, and demonstrates its longstanding
opposition to the use of fossil
fuels and its determination to wean the American people away from them
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no matter what the cost.
In summary, as Senator Craig noted on the Senate floor
this week, "as more and more American
scientists review the available data on global warming, it is becoming
increasingly clear that the vast
majority believe the commitments for reduction of greenhouse gas emissions made
by the
Administration in the Kyoto Protocol is an unnecessary response to an exaggerated
threat."



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (251851)12/21/2007 11:20:34 AM
From: one_less  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 281500
 
The well being of creation is a human issue and all of us have an obligation to care for the environment that hosts us in an active sense.

However be cautious as you proceed, a consensus of scientists is a misnomer? Remember ‘Eugenics’, that was the last big effort to politicize science through world consensus; if you want to see a list of famous politicians and scientists who supported it you would be amazed. If you’ve forgotten, Eugenics was a theory that quickly drew support from leading scientists, politicians and celebrities around the world. Research was funded by distinguished philanthropies, and carried out at prestigious universities. It would resolve crisis reported frequently in the media. The science was taught in college and high school classrooms. The eugenicists and the immigrationists joined forces to put a stop to the deterioration of the human gene pool. The plan was to identify individuals who were feeble-minded --- Jews were agreed to be largely feeble-minded, but so were many foreigners, as well as blacks --- and stop them from breeding by isolation in institutions or by sterilization. After world war two you consensus types conveniently forgot about eugenics and went on to gaining consensus for other agendas…

Consensus my butt, true scientists are those willing to venture alone into explorations which crack the cosmic egg yet one more time. But do we really look to them as the authors of practicality? Only if you want to blame Einstein for bombing cities of innocent Japanese people.

"The total system we call the biosphere is so complicated that we cannot know in advance the consequences of anything we do.

That is why even our most enlightened past efforts have had undesirable outcomes--either because we did not understand enough, or because the ever-changing world responded to our actions in unexpected ways. From this standpoint, the history of environmental protection is as discouraging as the history of environmental pollution. …

…The fact that the biosphere responds unpredictably to our actions is not an argument for inaction. It is, however, a powerful argument for caution, and for adopting a tentative attitude toward all we believe, and all we do. Unfortunately, our species has demonstrated a striking lack of caution in the past. It is hard to imagine that we will behave differently in the future.

We think we know what we are doing. We have always thought so. We never seem to acknowledge that we have been wrong in the past, and so might be wrong in the future. Instead, each generation writes off earlier errors as the result of bad thinking by less able minds--and then confidently embarks on fresh errors of its own. We … can claim to be self-aware, yet self-delusion may be a more significant characteristic of our kind.

Some time in the twenty-first century, our self-deluded recklessness will collide with our growing technological power. One area where this will occur is in the meeting point of nanotechnology, biotechnology, and computer technology. What all three have in common is the ability to release self-replicating entities into the environment…"


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I excerpted this from the introduction to Michael Crichton's science fiction novel titled Prey.



To: Wharf Rat who wrote (251851)12/21/2007 11:28:43 AM
From: Lou Weed  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 281500
 
He did have a beard at one point recently....fits with Mike's definition of the Messiah!

Haven't heard that Joan Osbourne tune in quite a while....I seem to remember her getting the "super christy" camp all upset with it.