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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Thomas A Watson who wrote (19017)	12/27/2007 12:38:31 PM
From: neolib	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36921

Look dumbass. I asked you to explain, within the confines of Thermodynamics, how you could use convection to raise the temperature inside a greenhouse to be above the outside temperature. This restricts you in the following ways: 1) The system is not isolated. I asked you to do it with convection. How can it be isolated if you are using convection? 2) I said raise the temp above the outside environment. That means that in the initial conditions the two are at the same temp, or you could claim I allowed the greenhouse to be cooler. Fine. If you start with cooler, you can use convection to get to the same temp, but that is not going to help. The problem is going from the same temp to higher then the outside. 3) No magic is allowed. So try again. And keep thinking about how the junkscience guy is so smart that surely he could not have made such a stupid blunder, and that the neolib surely can't so easily debunk your cherished nonsense. Keep the faith brother, and dig deeper. There must be an answer laying about somewhere. Liberals know nothing, so neolib must be wrong. LOL!