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To: tejek who wrote (364592)	12/27/2007 7:15:17 PM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1586368

Threats, Intimidation, and Free Speech By azhar@thefire.org (Azhar Majeed) One of the compelling storylines to take away from this year involves a matter that is still fresh in many people's minds and remains troubling to this day: the Virginia Tech shootings. The horrific events of that day may understandably send a chill down the spine of anyone who has a friend, significant other, child, or family member attending school or working on a college campus. In the wake of Virginia Tech, universities across the country have tried to take the necessary measures to ensure, to the greatest extent possible, that they can prevent a similar tragedy from taking place again. These reactions are perfectly natural and indeed laudable, since one of the chief concerns of any university administration is maintaining a safe and secure campus. However, FIRE has seen a disturbing trend this year toward applying what should be narrow prohibitions against threats and intimidation in a way that censors clearly protected speech. This is an important issue to watch for in the new year and beyond. At Hamline University, for example, student Troy Scheffler was placed on immediate suspension in April for sending emails that the administration deemed "threatening." In replying to an email sent by the Vice President of Student Affairs (VPSA) offering Hamline students extra counseling in the aftermath of the Virginia Tech shootings, Scheffler opined that Virginia Tech's ban on concealed weapons had contributed to the massacre and argued that Hamline should eliminate its similar policy. That was as "threatening" as he got in his email, which, importantly, was sent only to the VPSA and not to the entire university community. Two days later, when Hamline's president sent out another email about Virginia Tech, Scheffler replied again, reiterating his previous arguments. Once again, his response was sent directly to the sender of the initial email. On the basis of these two emails, Hamline somehow decided that Scheffler posed a threat to the campus community. It did not afford him any type of hearing, instead notifying him of the finding in a summary letter. Moreover, not only did it place him on immediate suspension, it stipulated that he could not return to school unless he submitted to a "mental health evaluation." While the case remains unresolved, one marvels at how far Scheffler's conduct falls from constituting a "true threat" as defined by the Supreme Court. In Virginia v. Black, 538 U.S. 343, 359 (2003), the Court said that true threats are made up of only "those statements where the speaker means to communicate a serious expression of an intent to commit an act of unlawful violence to a particular individual or group of individuals." Scheffler did not threaten to commit any type of violence, nor did he target a particular individual or group. Therefore, it remains mystifying that anyone could construe his message as communicating a true threat. And yet Scheffler's case might not be the most egregious one from this year. At Valdosta State University (VSU), student T. Hayden Barnes was labeled a "clear and present danger" by the school administration in May for doing nothing more than protesting the school's decision to build two new parking structures on campus. Concerned about the costs of construction (to be paid out of mandatory student fees) and the potential for increased pollution, Barnes created a collage of pictures on the website Facebook.com. The collage included various images and captions relating to Barnes' environmental concerns and made reference to a Zaccari Memorial Parking Garage, satirizing VSU President Ronald Zaccari's publicly stated concerns about his legacy. Amazingly, this was enough for President Zaccari to determine that Barnes constituted a threat specifically to Zaccari and more generally to the entire campus. Barnes was given a notice of "administrative withdrawal" and required to submit certifications of his mental health and ongoing therapy in order to be readmitted. Once again, this is a case of student speech being suppressed because of disagreement with its content, under the pretext of punishing and preventing threats and verbal intimidation. And as was the case at Hamline, the university imposed a significant punishment, one that is very damaging to the student's academic career, and did so without allowing for the most basic of due process rights. thefire.org

To: tejek who wrote (364592)	12/27/2007 8:00:29 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1586368

I don't care how many Dems voted for it. I know what's right and what's wrong. The Dems and the nation got snookered. The Dems were snookered by a stupid chimp, right? Anyway, the wide support for the war at the time ruins the argument it was a unilateral move by the President. ---------------------------------------------------- Second, you must not think 911 was an attack on the US homeland because our troops involvement in Afghanistan is a direct response to that attack. Afghanistan was the base of the terror group which attacked us on 911. Yes, it is....so why are we in Iraq? Don't change the topic. You included Afghanistan in the far off countries we're wrongly fighting wars in. I wasn't changing the subject. If the fighting in Afghanistan is in retaliation for 9/11, why are we in Iraq? Trying to shift a question about AFghanistan to Iraq is changing the topic. ----------------------------------------------- I did support the police action in Afghanistan in order to apprehend bin Laden and bring him to trial. I oppose the ongoing wars in both Afghanistan and Iraq. These wars could easily bankrupt the country while accomplishing little. Can you guys not see the forest for the trees? When did the police action in Afghanistan you supported turn into the war in Afghanistan you oppose? ------------------------------------------------- What other country do you know has a Pentagon or any military headquarters that's as big? The military is big business in the US. No other country can match our military at present. Thats largely why the world is as free and prosperous as it is. America's ascendance will be remembered as a brief period of peace and prosperity in world history.