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To: E_K_S who wrote (29483)	12/29/2007 7:56:46 PM
From: Bart Hoenes	Respond to of 78753

Those are pretty impressive rates of return. Your return of 12% is not bad either, especially considering the 2000 - 2002 period which was very difficult. The S&P 500 (darling of the indexes) just pulled up to even after 8 years (over the 1999 - 2007 period of time). I don't think Wall Street will be pointing this out and throwing a party. finance.yahoo.com^gspc;range=19991227,20071228;charttype=line;crosshair=on;logscale=on;source=undefined

To: E_K_S who wrote (29483)	12/30/2007 12:48:22 AM
From: Paul Senior	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 78753

EKS. Imo, when it's to a person's advantage to have a stellar investing record, lo and behold, that person will never correct exaggerated or isolated compounding figures nor otherwise correct the impression that the person is a guru of investing. I don't for one minute believe Cramer's investing performance of 24% compounded over 13 years. Never see any reference to audited statements. And from what I read/surmise/suspect of Mr. Cramer, given that he IS a good investor (distinct from playing with mad money), some or a lot of his gains are also attributable to some sort of gaming the system - front running, insider access, planting articles, etc. O' Neil (Ten Great Investors). Him? This is a guy who makes his money investing? Or is it from touting his newspaper and its/his CANSLIM? Another person with no audited figures that are offered to substantiate. He made big bucks on Syntex. Okay great, but what the heck. That was 35 years ago; I don't see anything he done big in the last 20-30 years in stock investing that's made him even more successful and worth learning from.