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To: Snowshoe who wrote (27158)	1/1/2008 3:22:12 AM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 217789

"World Monetary Reform" ascribes weight to a country’s currency based on the size of of its economy, its reserves including gold. Just make the system transparent to avoid countries pretending to be rich. Or tiny economies punching way above its weight.

To: Snowshoe who wrote (27158)	1/1/2008 3:36:23 AM
From: TobagoJack	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217789

according to the conspiracy brigade Message 24172867 , (i) the FED is a private bank, (ii) the chairman of which is chosen by the Prez of USA from a list provided him by "those responsible to draw up the list", (iii) the list may just have precisely one chosen name on it, (iv) the Chairman of the FED works tirelessly, for and on behalf of the American people, all 1% of them, along with people of other nationalities, 1% each from the various nations which in turn belongs to various clubs, (vii) also controls the gold supposedly in Fort Knox, held as lien against Treasury borrowings from the FED, (viii) for which the Treasury pays interest, (ix) whereas the gold has already been machinated via derivative convolutions to free up proceeds that in turn is lent out at higher interest rate, (x) to the benefit of the folks who control the FED, (xi) who are the same as the ones who draw up the list annointing the FED chairman, (xii) all with the aim of sustaining a state of is where the masses are turned into so much serfs and cannon fodder, (xiii) for the good of the 1%. if so, the USA cannot revert to the gold standard and disband the FED, until and unless the entire chromo-lattice of the current monetary regime, along with its sponsoring cohort, is ripped from the fabric of society, like a cancer. such an operation will necessarily be painful (think Argentine Outcome), and possibly near fatal (think USSR), and certainly not good for wealth preservation, and yet it must be, sooner or later, worse or disastrous, because the program we are on is the Zimbabwe non-solution. Confiscation is definitely part of the script, as was in all times past, and revolution could easily break out, because confiscation begets more confiscation, and soon enough, some critical counter party crucially needed by the existing order will have its inside punctured ... game over, player one, two, three, etc we of the thread are hanging out to watch and brief on the process of collapse, to welcome the teotwawki dawn, and with dawn, the new sovereign. The boyz thought they had pulverized the Russian Empire. They were wrong. They are trying to entice the Chinese Middle Kingdom. They will fail. They have been trying to coopt the Indian Republic. And will be ignored. The New World Order is delayed, perhaps permanently, because the New Applicants wants to play the game their own way. Just a guess. Certainly makes a good book :0) P.S. confiscating gold will be a lot easier this time because the ETFs make it so convenient for the authorities - one decree and poof, goes the gold on the ledger, changes the owner of the stuff stored in London, and ETF holders are stuffed with paper of 'equal' value encrypted recommendation: buygold, takedelivery, hideitwell, and wait for the revolutionagainstprimeevil

To: Snowshoe who wrote (27158)	1/1/2008 7:14:36 AM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 217789

Africa, Mideast Markets May Receive $1 Billion Inflow, FT Says By Tim Barwell Dec. 31 (Bloomberg) -- As much as $1 billion will flow into North African and Middle Eastern stock markets in the coming months as firms open funds focusing on the region, the Financial Times said. BlackRock Inc., Permal and T. Rowe Price Group Inc. are among fund groups that have introduced funds in the region in recent months, the newspaper said, without citing anyone. To contact the reporter on this story: Tim Barwell in London on tbarwell@bloomberg.net Last Updated: December 30, 2007 21:14 EST ELMAT: Nice start of 2008.

To: Snowshoe who wrote (27158)	1/1/2008 3:36:22 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 217789

Snow, there isn't enough gold in the world for more than a few smaller countries to go onto a gold standard. Well, there is enough gold, but the gold would have to be about $10,000 an ounce. At that price, gold would become a huge drain on the economy as umpty millions of people would stop doing useful things and start digging gold, filtering it out of the ocean, or spending their days robbing people of their gold. The reason gold got to the previous world record price due to the second oil price quadrupling in 1979 was that at the time, that was a huge event. Most people are too young to remember it or didn't experience it other than in petrol prices. That followed the previous quadrupling of 1974. In the 1970s, the size of oil in the USA and global economy was huge. General Motors and the Seven Sisters bestrode the Earth. As did all sorts of economic activity requiring oil and LOTS of it. Now, oil is a small part of the world's economy. That's why $100 a barrel came along after oil being about $10 less than 10 years ago. Here's a good graph of oil price. Note that it is in 2006 dollars rather than dollars of the day. wtrg.com The oil price is still lower than the previous peak. So really, it's all a big yawn. We have seen it before. Oil is going to come way down in price, because the alternatives are now so much cheaper, so they will continue to grow until oil prices are once again competitive. Gold will also go down in price once the panics about fiat currencies are over. Gold is worth the cost of production. Same as oil. Any prices above that are temporary while people adjust their economic activity to suit. Here is some gold history: taxfreegold.co.uk Note that in ten years, gold went from $35 an ounce to nearly $900 an ounce, while oil went from $2 a barrel to $40 a barrel in the same time. Remember, that was when oil was a big deal. The recent moves are small by comparison = from $270 and ounce to nearly $900 an ounce and from $10 a barrel to $100 a barrel [at a time when oil is half as important in the economy]. The big issue is debt and the political outcome of sorting out that debt. We have already seen politicians keen to wade into the mess and "do something", which of course involves robbing savers and rewarding the borrowers as is traditional. 2008 has a lucky number in it for China [and might turn out to be that way for them] but is not lined up to be too lucky for people in heavy debt, or their creditors. Mqurice