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To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (7509)	1/2/2008 1:32:29 PM
From: manny_velasco	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 50191

negative....your brand new milk cow will cost you 2,500 to 2,700 dollars..I won't quote a price on a cow with fancy papers.lol

To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (7509)	1/2/2008 4:27:49 PM
From: Broken_Clock	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 50191

Spoke w/ a friend last night just back from cow country(he has a 'small' 6,500 ac ranch. Apparently the cost of hay has nearly tripled over the past few years to around 300/ton delivered. Cheaper if you p/u at the hay farm but diesel is non-negotiable so it's a wash. So the ranchers have been selling off herds for 2 years trying to survive and that glut of beef has held prices down. Now herds are depleted, costs are still rising. Got NY steaks on sale at $19.95? Coming to a Costco near you! BTW, I asked my other friend today if the above was true. He said yes. His sister lives on private Hollister Ranch n. of Santa Barbara and they are selling off the herd there because of hay costs. He owns maybe the largest organic fertilizer co. in Calif. and says prices are steadily climbing in the ag world.

To: patron_anejo_por_favor who wrote (7509)	1/7/2008 2:08:47 PM
From: Archie Meeties	Respond to of 50191

Although, to be accurate, cows are fed corn at concentrated animal feeding operations (CAFO's) because it's still cheaper than grass. Using corn leads to the massive use of antibiotics because their digestive system is designed for grass, not corn. The acidity of the corn diet in feedlots creates an acidic environment leading to ulcers in the gi tract through which bacteria flow into the cow = uniform and high levels of antibiotics used in CAFO's. Cows fed what nature designed them to eat have about 300x less pathogenic e. coli. in their beef. Russel, J.B., F. Diez-Gonzalez, and G. N. Jarvis, "Potential Effect of Cattle Diets on Transmission of Pathogenic Eschericia Coli to Humans" Microbes Infect 2, No.1 (2000) :45-53 ucsaction.org The buy maybe should be on prime rangeland as there is a trend to buy beef from cows that are eating grass. As an aside, cows are pretty bad converters of feed into protein, but my, nothing quite satisfies like a good steak from time to time.