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To: bentway who wrote (99196)	1/6/2008 11:20:30 PM
From: Elroy Jetson	Respond to of 306849

To join one of the most prestigious business clubs in Australia, they need to review your family background. If you have any ancestors who are related to royalty, or people with titles, you're barred from becoming a member. You have to appreciate a culture like that, or at least I do even though this rule precludes my membership. Until the 1970s criminal ancestors were something people didn't talk about, but its quite fashionable now. Those Australians lucky enough to have a convict ancestor can look up the proceedings of the Old Bailey to learn what sent their forebears to Australia. oldbaileyonline.org Usually the crime was something like the theft of a loaf of bread, for which they were sentenced to death, which was usually commuted to Transportation with Sentence a few months later by the King's Privy Council. That's one thread of the rivalry between Sydney, which began as a penal colony, and Melbourne which was settled by free miners and farmers. Originally, prisoners under sentence of death were sentenced to Transportation to America, but the Revolutionary War put a kink in this scheme, so the Crown had to pay up for the far longer trip to Australia. You don't hear much in America about this, even though most of the "passengers" on the Mayflower were convicts, not to mention "passengers" who arrived in later years. .