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To: Drygulch Dan who wrote (99632)	1/10/2008 3:58:48 PM
From: Lizzie Tudor	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 306849

what does going off grid have to do with clean energy? The opportunity is for utilities to buy into green fuels. "going off grid" is typically a way to explain greenfuels away - it is a peripheral argument. Same with the cost of installing solar panels on roofs. The issue is the ROOF not the solar panels. Anything you install on a roof is expensive. Solar utilities are putting the panels on the ground, problem solved.

To: Drygulch Dan who wrote (99632)	1/10/2008 4:47:00 PM
From: patron_anejo_por_favor	Respond to of 306849

Ultimately the "solution" to peak oil will involve pretty much all available sources. Where I live, solar is the obvious solution. Conservation is an obvious solution. Coal/nuclear and hydrocarbon liquids are likely stopgaps. In all likelihood all of these will be adopted to greater/lesser extent, because they will have to be. Managing power on a boat is (IMO) tougher than powering a "reasonable" sized electric car, because the resources to do so have to be self contained. A little different if I can build a power plant on deserted land (maybe KBH will sell it to me for pennies on the dollar) 40 miles from Phoenix.....<G>