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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: LindyBill who wrote (19524)1/11/2008 2:17:34 PM
From: Alastair McIntosh  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 36921
 
Make the program voluntary and it won't be a problem.

put forth a plan to control people's thermostats


Toronto Hydro-Electric System Receives Global Kudos for Early Adoption of peaksaver(R) Peak Reduction Program

Depending on the temperature on hot days, the maximum load, the number of customers, and the number of hours in which the peaksaver devices are activated, peak load reduction will vary. For example, on August 1, 2006, the units helped shave 15.7 megawatts of peak demand from the provincial grid; and on August 2, they reduced 13.8 megawatts during a period of record-breaking heat. In 2007, peaksaver devices were put into action once, saving 33.5 megawatts. Currently, Toronto Hydro customers enrolled in the peaksaver program have the ability to shed 44 megawatts.

reuters.com

One way or another, if there is a power emergency your A/C unit will be turned off. Many people would pick a reduction in air conditioning for a short period over a complete blackout.

The ultimate solution is pricing tied to cost using "smart metering". If you want to run your A/C when the marginal cost of peak power is $1.00/kwh thats fine. Just be prepared to pay for it.



To: LindyBill who wrote (19524)1/12/2008 12:59:41 PM
From: Elmer Flugum  Respond to of 36921
 
Industry has operated under an interruptible power contracts for years.

I think the key is the process being a voluntary decision with economic incentives for participating.

I would not support such involuntary centralization control.

When society becomes more and more beholden to centralized, large corporations (public or private) we individuals in those societies lose our independence and a return to serfdom.

I fear a growing feudal state already.

len