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To: Ilaine who wrote (27689)	1/11/2008 3:08:02 PM
From: Cogito Ergo Sum	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217739

That's left to the lawyers to check normally up here... I imagine the same applies in your neck of the woods ? So if unscrupulous lawyers were involved (present company excepted :O) it would be pretty easy ... n'est-ce pas ? The Black Swan

To: Ilaine who wrote (27689)	1/11/2008 3:20:53 PM
From: Maurice Winn	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 217739

CB, if you are given, by a Spanish lawyer, a letter in Spanish saying they have got exemption, then of course people would think it okay. There are all sorts of special dispensations given by governments, usually to benefit themselves or their friends. The rules made by governments are so arcane that no regular human can start to understand them, especially if they are in a foreign language. I was about to buy an apartment in Beijing a few years ago, but one of the reasons I didn't was that it was all too hard and written in Chinese, so I'd have to take far too much on trust. It cost me $1000 to get a sale and purchase agreement translated. The cost of getting everything else translated, such as all the governments law, which are probably handed down arbitrarily by a judge/planner/local council/any number of hangers on and ticket clippers would be hopeless and I'd have to just take somebody's word for it that my brand new Spanish house was mine to own, live in, rent. Destroying the houses is stupid though. Green belts are a load of rubbish. A planning madness. Parks are reasonable, but the idea of ring-fencing a city with "green" is silly. Anyway, as the photo shows, it's not very green. It's dry and dusty. The worst that should happen is to punish by way of fine or confiscation of the property with the owners allowed to stay living there until they die, or with a 50 year lease or some such. It's not as though the house is harming anything. It was the government at fault: <But Mr Vercher, the senior prosecutor for urban planning and the environment in the Supreme Court, has said he is in favour of demolishing houses and leaving devastated homeowners to seek compensation from builders in the civil courts. He said last year: "Spanish law is clear: illegal homes should be demolished, regardless of whether they were bought in good faith." He made it clear he will use article 319.3 of the Spanish legal code - which says illegally built property can be knocked down. In October 2006 Spain launched a specialist police force to investigate corruption in urban planning following a string of scandals. Some 30,000 homes have illegally built in Marbella on the Costa del Sol, where a £2billion corruption scandal has seen the mayor, head of planning and 50 other officials arrested. > The house buyers were conned by a conspiracy of the government employees and the sellers of the properties. The wrong people have been punished. The government should compensate the owners for failing to get things right, causing distress and costs in sorting out the problem. Mqurice

To: Ilaine who wrote (27689)	1/11/2008 6:13:44 PM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 217739

You get a number, check the Internet "bill of health" of the property is there in a minute. That's easy because the city biggest source of revenue is property taxes. Thus they keep the most up to date database on property status. The municipality put that for the owners' use. You can even see how many trees with more than a foot diameter are there and muniipality must be consulted before any tree is cut. It is also explained that if you build need to conatct mobile operators or telecoms authorities before. Everything in a simple page on the Internet. But that's Curitiba. It is not Spain.