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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (3970)	1/17/2008 4:33:22 PM
From: Katelew	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42652

Get rid of the private health insurance companies and you automatically get rid of sales/marketing costs and profit margins. The typical income statement of such a company shows such costs to be 25-30% Get rid of the private health insurance companies and replace it with a single-payer and docs and hospitals lower their own costs related to billings. Doctors claim such administration costs add 15-20% to their costs of doing business. I also should have earlier mentioned that lower medical costs would make American companies more competitive against their foreign competitiors. Remember all members of the EU have single-payer systems of some kind. As a capitalist, I'd like my own country's companies to have the same or lower medical costs, wouldn't you??

To: TimF who wrote (3970)	1/18/2008 2:42:07 PM
From: Peter Dierks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

"single-payer system because it is a substantially cheaper system " That has not been established. Also that change really does make things cheaper it may do so by reducing level and/or quality of service. Absolutely. Government programs are almost never less expensive than private sector programs despite a profit margin for the businesses involved. Government programs never seem to get cut but instead become more and more bloated. Businesses are constantly reallocating resources for efficiencies. Single payer is a socialized health care insurance system. The cheer leaders for Socialized Medicine are getting mad for having that pointed out. "You guys conflate all kinds of issues and overcomplicate a very simple debate." If you don't think the issue is complex your either missing something or only addressing it on a very superficial level. I have personally underestimated the complexity of almost every business venture I have entered. Sometimes it is with with incredible amounts of details worked out, but still there are major components that I have not understood or even considered. Expecting substantially better of governments seems unrealistic. The to selling concert hall in America was built with two rounds of public financing, the second after the municipality discovered they had substantially underestimated expenses.