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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Road Walker who wrote (3992)	1/18/2008 12:25:32 PM
From: TimF	Respond to of 42652

No it doesn't, when you are looking at a single unique system with a very poor result. We don't have that poor of result, by some measures we have better results. Also our system isn't nearly as unique as you present it. Every country has all those factors to a certain extent, and the more factors you introduce the less relevant each becomes. More factors does not mean that you can ignore or The larger number of factors you have, the harder it is to control for the factors, and the less able you are to isolate one particular factor and say it is the important difference. Each factor adds additional uncertainty to any calculation. You know there are many underinsured and uninsured who go without health care because they can't afford it. They go without health care in some specific case, which sometimes may lower there expected life span, but many times will not. Some of them will not get care for some crucial situation, and on the net this will have an overall negative effect on life span but your talking about a fraction of cases, out of the fraction who have lower access to health care. In the mean time the delays and rationing from "single payer" systems that spend less on health care than we do, also have a similar effect. Some conditions won't be discovered or treated, and some people will die earlier.

To: Road Walker who wrote (3992)	1/18/2008 1:52:44 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

No it doesn't, when you are looking at a single unique system with a very poor result. Since I've been participating in this topic, I've had occasion to learn a few things. One is to recognize that that's not so. We have a continuum of systems. It seems that the French system is more like ours than it is like the British. Tim: Everyone in the US has some access to health care. John: You are being obtuse. You know there are many underinsured and uninsured who go without health care because they can't afford it. Either you are not reading carefully or you are the one being obtuse. There is no contradiction between the two statements. Yes, many are under- and un-insured AND, yes, everyone has some access to health care.