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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Road Walker who wrote (4056)1/19/2008 4:55:37 PM
From: Katelew  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 42652
 
Thanks, John. As for changing things, though, you are an optimist. I'm pretty pessimistic myself. From an investment point of view, I think we've peaked and other parts of the world, including Europe, will prove safer and more rewarding in terms of investment. US companies are becoming less competitive in ways other than their health care costs.

Thirty years ago decisions were made that set trends in motion. At the time, most of those decisions I agreed with.
But the resultant trends have been destructive to the country on balance, IMO. Even if Democrats control congress and the White House, I think they only become the party that presided over continued deterioration because there are no good, clear-cut choices left.

I don't know if you listened to Bernanke yesterday. He said the time to have engineered fiscal responsibility in government was ten years ago. He said it very quietly and no one picked up on it....not then or later by the media.

Sometimes I think of the general state of affairs in this country as one of those weakening bulls in a bullfight with
all those little spear-thingies sticking out of its neck and shoulders. Maybe it would be better for Republicans to maintain control of both branches and just finish the country off quickly.

At any rate, I suspect it will be a pitiful sight watching Dems try to reverse things.



To: Road Walker who wrote (4056)2/2/2008 4:00:15 PM
From: Joe NYC  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 42652
 
John,

I used to play golf with a Doc and he was the one that convinced me that the only solution was single payer. He wasn't particularly happy about it... but he was a realist. And eventually that is where we will HAVE to go.

Doctors are part of the sickness industry, and thier industry is making people sicker (through oversubscribtion of artificial patented substances).

Doctors with their prescriptions are 3rd or 4th leading cause of death in this country (depending on who is counting).

Each additional dollar that is ut into this sickness industry is a dollar wasted.

BTW, your buddy Doc has a wested interest in guaranteed and ever increasing stream of money going into his pocket.

maybe the '08 election will help.

Yeah right. The last time I checked, Ron Paul was at 5%. He is the only person who brings up the fact that health and well being is a personal responsibility, not something you offload (or outsourced) from:

#1: you

to

#2 your Doc
#3 Big Pharma
#4 Big Insurance
#5 Big Government

The most effective solutions are closest to #1, the further out you go, the less effective the solutions are. (And I am extremely generous by calling #3 to #5 solutions. They are in fact part of the problem)

Joe