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To: SilentZ who wrote (368349)1/26/2008 10:32:03 AM
From: Jim McMannis  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1581992
 
I really don't get McCain either. Maybe people like a moderate but the issues you mentioned are valid reasons not to vote McCain, on both sides.



To: SilentZ who wrote (368349)1/26/2008 11:13:03 AM
From: bentway  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1581992
 
I liked McCain some before he revealed who he was.



To: SilentZ who wrote (368349)1/26/2008 11:13:26 AM
From: Road Walker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1581992
 
It still puzzles me when people who otherwise would vote for Dems think about voting for McCain. He deviates from the Republican party line on what, three issues? And in the case of Fowler, one of those three (immigration) is one where Fowler is more to the right...

I was just looking at different scenarios. My number 1 & 2 issues are Iraq and Energy (which I see as the same issue). #3 issue is the deficit (which I see as intertwined with 1&2). #4 is financial reform of the political system away from special interests. And after that comes income distribution and immigration (again closely tied), health care and the other "stuff".

Take Iraq/Energy assuming a Hill/McCain race. In primary season, you have Hill moving left on these issues, McCain moving right, to appeal to the base. I see Hill as a 'natural' hawk... I see McCain as a hawk but more nuanced. On energy I see Hill as special interest bought and sold, and McCain as more independent.

On the deficit I think McCain is the winner. On political $'s reform McCain wins. On health care and other stuff Hill definitely wins.

So in the general I would have to look at their 'new' positions, because they will change. It wouldn't be a slam dunk for Hillary. Hopefully it doesn't come down to that choice.

We've had some pretty decent Republican presidents in my life and some pretty bad Dems... I really don't have a 'home team'. Seems that way because the Republicans have been SO BAD for 8 years with the Neo crap.

When we get to the general election, I will want to hear policy that is targeted to the general population, not the base. Then I'll make up my mind.



To: SilentZ who wrote (368349)1/26/2008 11:13:44 AM
From: American Spirit  Respond to of 1581992
 
McCain's support for Iraq will doom him in the end. He claims he was against Bush from the beginning on how to attack Iraq. Not true. He only started criticizing when things were abyssmal after the 2004 election and his support for Bush instead of accepting Kerry's offer for a unity ticket directly prolonged the Iraq debacle for four years or more.



To: SilentZ who wrote (368349)1/26/2008 11:22:52 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1581992
 
It still puzzles me when people who otherwise would vote for Dems think about voting for McCain. He deviates from the Republican party line on what, three issues? And in the case of Fowler, one of those three (immigration) is one where Fowler is more to the right...

Who's voting for McCain? I think John considered him for a short period of time but I not sure he was serious.