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Microcap & Penny Stocks : Naked Shorting-Hedge Fund & Market Maker manipulation? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: kknightmcc who wrote (3166)	1/27/2008 10:50:24 AM
From: rrufff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 5034

Hi - I haven't been following the war between Bagley and Antar, Jeff and "crew," but it is funny that the "apologist," as you term it, basically attacks someone without substance, and is a primary defender of people who do much of what he claims Bagley does. He supports so-called "crusaders" who attack others with innuendo and threats, merely because they post positively about a stock. Hypocrite could be his middle name. Whether the article is true or false, we don't know, but, at least attack the substance of the article, refute it with facts, not with "it's a laugh...." and calling names. Why is it that those who defend a company are ridiculed, while those who defend the possibly manipulative shorting (by hedge funds or other coordinated trading "enterprise") are deemed "correct" and "crusaders" because they simply post?

To: kknightmcc who wrote (3166)	1/28/2008 11:04:19 AM
From: ravenseye	Respond to of 5034

antisocialmedia.net antisocialmedia.net lots of name dropping in that 11/13/07 depo, seems some were specifically given up. i should have counted how many times barry responded with "i don't recall". when does one outlive their past ... things kinda like $$ ... before or after lma(zz)o both? ayyy, what do i need to do to be sent a $100k gift from sam and pay my expenses, huh? is that kinda like being paid to be a sith lord, a member of the dark side? never mind, i'm not interested. lma(zz)o i read how the church was used, which i assume violates the irs tax code! anyone else find the real estate business mentions ironic in light of the housing crash? barry made a point to mention how sam is all involved in ostk too. what got me was reading about the same packages of information being sent to the sec and fbi were also sent to china! page 128 states sam did 6 months, did he really? wasn't it house arrest? it is very odd how sam use to sign off his posts as an ex-felon, until he was corrected on yahoo about his error! see below post from 10/31/06: Other rules of testifying for guilty witnesses only (you know who you are) that are not included in the official book from an ex-felon and former perjurer: 1. When you are guilty the best way avoid getting caught lying is not to dispute the facts but rationalize your choices. In other words try to spin why you did what you did or did not do. Always deny your intent. 2. If you can’t spin don’t. It is better to commit the sin of omission than commission. Another trick to avoid perjury is memory loss. You must have selective memory of your actions and when cornered (since you cannot use rule 1) and answer I do not recall or I do not remember. 3. Appear stupid since being ignorant is not by itself a crime. In other words say that everything was reviewed by people smarter than you (blame the CEO, CFO, internal auditors, external auditors, and Board members etc.) You just tell everyone you were not as detail oriented and as smart as your compensation and position would have everyone believe. Now I would NEVER counsel anyone to use such rules and if you are guilty (you know if you are) you should save everyone the time, trouble, and resources and take the fifth. You are far better off settling early and putting your criminality behind you than to make your adversaries (the government and civil plaintiffs who are after you) expend enormous resources investigating you to seek out justice. It is far better in the end to face mercy of your victims and sentencing Judge than their anger. So often those (including myself) have thumbed their nose at our justice system by following the three rules I have outlined above. I am sure everyone reading these rules has seen the same old, same old from many business persons and government officials today - time and time again. You should be disgusted by the lack of taking responsibility and accepting accountability. Unfortunately, I learned about humanity and morality the hard way and almost too late from the stark realization that had I not taken responsibility, accepted full accountability, and become willing to face the consequences of my brutal criminality I would be writing this comment from a prison cell instead of my home. Respectfully, Sam E. Antar (former Crazy Eddie CFO and ex-felon) Comment by Sam E. Antar - October 31, 2006 at 11:42 blogs.wsj.com