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To: SilentZ who wrote (368617)	1/27/2008 2:24:39 PM
From: combjelly	Respond to of 1574005

"If a candidate talks about change, change, change, I need to know that he understands exactly what the situation is and how it needs to be changed." Yup. And finding concrete information about Obama is not easy. He is great with "the vision thing" as Bush the Old so poignantly phrased it, but he is pretty lacking in specifics. Like on immigration. He is four-square behind "comprehensive immigration reform", but pretty light on what exactly that means.

To: SilentZ who wrote (368617)	1/27/2008 2:32:08 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	Respond to of 1574005

Z, > If a candidate talks about change, change, change, I need to know that he understands exactly what the situation is and how it needs to be changed. To Hillary, "change change change" means change your own position when the polls no longer support it. It all depends on whether you think Clinton, Inc. is part of the solution or part of the problem. (And I'm leaving the definitions of "problem" and "solution" wide open.) Tenchusatsu

To: SilentZ who wrote (368617)	1/27/2008 2:45:11 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1574005

And I am saying to you that the national polls as of today are so close that its unclear whether Hillary can win. And if you see the polls that way, don't they say the same about Obama? Nope. Did you not look at the link I provided? Clinton vs McCain...McCain is on top by a small margin. Obama vs McCain.......Obama is on top by a small margin. Clinton vs Romney.....Clinton beats by 11%; Obama vs Romney.....Obama beats by 18%. And these polls were BEFORE South Carolina. and I am convinced a hater of men. That's an over-the-top and pretty misogynistic statement. Huh? Because I think Hillary hates men? Hardly misogynistic. It has to do with the way she stares at Obama and Edwards during the debates. The hatred is palpable and I can no longer ignore it. And even if true, if you were treated by men the way she is (see CUNT and the Hillary Nutcracker), wouldn't you be a little pissed off at men?* Look. It takes two to tango. I don't disagree that its difficult for a woman even now but not to a degree that requires her abrasive side at full force esp with men like Obama and Edwards. The times are achanging.....she needs to change with the times. Besides, there's just a little bit too much smoke around that woman for there not to be a fire somewhere. Maybe you're immune to the inspiration Obama invokes but a lot of Americans are not. Because people are shallow. Excuse me. You think its shallow to be inspired by someone; to think you can trust a leader to do what's right for you and the country? I think you might be hanging a little too much in NYC......you're becoming a mite cynical. If a candidate talks about change, change, change, I need to know that he understands exactly what the situation is and how it needs to be changed. I get that feeling strongly from Edwards, somewhat from Hillary (though I don't think she'd change things enough), and don't get it much at all from Obama. I may still vote for him over Hillary if it comes down to that, but for now, I'm stickin' with Edwards. Fine. I never asked you to vote for Obama. That's what a democracy is all about....the freedom to choose.