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To: Brumar89 who wrote (63715)	1/31/2008 4:53:07 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Berkeley council tells Marines to leave By Doug Oakley STAFF WRITER Article Launched: 01/30/2008 01:48:16 PM PST • Hey-hey, ho-ho, the Marines in Berkeley have got to go. That's the message from the Berkeley City Council, which voted 6-3 Tuesday night to tell the U.S. Marines that its Shattuck Avenue recruiting station "is not welcome in the city, and if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders." In addition, the council voted to explore enforcing its law prohibiting discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation against the Marines because of the military's don't ask, don't tell policy. And it officially encouraged the women's peace group Code Pink to impede the work of the Marines in the city by protesting in front of the station. In a separate item, the council voted 8-1 to give Code Pink a designated parking space in front of the recruiting station once a week for six months and a free sound permit for protesting once a week from noon to 4 p.m. Councilman Gordon Wozniak opposed both items. The Marines have been in Berkeley for a little more than a year, having moved from Alameda in December of 2006. For about the past four months, Code Pink has been protesting in front of the station. "I believe in the Code Pink cause. The Marines don't belong here, they shouldn't have come here, and they should leave," said Berkeley Mayor Tom Bates after votes were cast. A Marines representative did not respond to requests for comment. The resolution telling the Marines they are unwelcome and directing the city attorney to explore issues of sexual orientation discrimination was brought to the council by the city's Peace and Justice commission. The recommendation to give Code Pink a parking space for protesting and a free sound permit was brought by council members Linda Maio and Max Anderson. Code Pink on Wednesday started circulating petitions to put a measure on the November ballot in Berkeley that would make it more difficult to open military recruiting offices near homes, parks, schools, churches libraries or health clinics. The group needs 5,000 signatures to make the ballot. Even though the council items passed, not everyone is happy with the work of Code Pink. Some employees and owners of businesses near the Marines office have had enough of the group and its protests. "My husband's business is right upstairs, and this (protesting) is bordering on harassment," Dori Schmidt told the council. "I hope this stops." An employee of a nearby business who asked not to be identified said Wednesday the elderly Code Pink protesters are aggressive, take up parking spaces, block the sidewalk with their yoga moves, smoke in the doorways, and are noisy. "Most of the people around here think they're a joke," the woman said. Wozniak said he was opposed to giving Code Pink a parking space because it favors free speech rights of one group over another. "There's a line between protesting and harassing, and that concerns me," Wozniak said. "It looks like we are showing favoritism. We have to respect the other side, and not abuse their rights. This is not good policy." Ninety-year-old Fran Rachel, a Code Pink protester who spoke at the council meeting, said the group's request for a parking space and noise permit was especially important because the Marines are recruiting soldiers who may die in an unjust war. "This is very serious," Rachel said. "This isn't a game; it's mass murder. There's a sickness of silence of people not speaking out against the war. We have to do this." Anderson, a former Marine who said he was "drummed out" of the corps when he took a stand against the Vietnam War, said he'd love to see the Marines high tale it out of town. "We are confronted with an organization that can spend billions of dollars on propaganda," Anderson said. "This is not Okinawa here; we're involved in a naked act of aggression. If we can provide a space for ordinary people to express themselves against this kind of barbarity, then we should be doing it." contracostatimes.com

To: Brumar89 who wrote (63715)	2/4/2008 1:01:59 PM
From: Lazarus_Long	Respond to of 90947

"They've put up with me. OTOH, I'm armed. :-)" Christians and the military are singled out for more overt hostile treatment. Something like 23,000 Christian youth gathered in San Francisco for a rally. The youth were met with some disapproval and protests, but nothing as overt and violent as they faced last year. Last year the San Francisco Board of Supervisors passed a resolution condemning the event, so this year they tried to show a little more tolerance. The city commissioners banned microphones and amplifiers during the hours of their rally, citing sound ordinances. bluestarchronicles.com "Freedom of religion and the rest of that first amendment garbage only apply in Frisco if you're gay and/or atheist and/or at least non-Christian (Wiccan is fine). Christian means you are bigoted against everything they stand for. If you are Christian and they hate hate, they are being rightist; if you are Christian and you disagree with them, you are bigoted. Get it straight, boy!" Marines Barred From Filming Commercial on Streets of San Francisco foxnews.com "Warmongerers will not be tolerated! Even if the warmongerers purpose is to guarantee Friscan's right to protest against them." Guess the Bill of Rights doesn't apply in SF. "It's a subversive right-wing document!" Daly backs move to ground Blue Angels show search.mywebsearch.com. "See above re warmongers. :-)"