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Politics : Ask Michael Burke -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Knighty Tin who wrote (110944)	1/31/2008 9:11:22 PM
From: Freedom Fighter	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 132070

KT, I'll limit my response to one issue because unfortunately you couldn't help yourself but to define conservatives "the way you see fit" so you could attack them. I could just as easily identify subsets of liberals, define them all the way I see fit, and then trash the crap out of them. I have no use for that kind of thing. >>2. Lower taxes basically benefit the wealthy and the corporations. Lower govt. spending basically disadvantages the middle and lower classes. Geez, it's not like the gap isn't already huge and growing every year without a turboboost from these class warfare ideas.<< It has nothing to do with class warfare. I'm really starting to think you are so caught up in politics you aren't thinking straight. You don't seem to understand basic economics and it's really hard for me to imagine why. This whole debate is really a matter of long term vs. short term thinking. That's all it really is (except that the some on the left won't admit that and others don't understand it). What's good for business, economic growth etc... IS GOOD for the middle class and poor etc...just not as quickly as if you give the middle class and poor money directly via current government spending etc.... The difference is that over the LONG TERM, what's good for business, economic growth etc... will cumulatively be "way better" for them than the short term benefits they get from current government spending. Now I can see a reasonable person saying that a certain subset of people has such an immediate critical need that the government should spend now, but the goal should be to eliminate that government ASAP to maximize the resources of the country and create the greatest value over time. The faster the pie grows, the more pie there is to divide up. Even if some people get more pie or their percentage of the pie grows faster than others because they are blessed or work harder, it doesn't matter as long as the pie is so much bigger that even the small pieces are bigger. It's a fast growing pie that drags people out of poverty and gives the middle class a chance to get rich. If you can do that, who cares if there's a few fat slobs out there. If you can't comprehend that, I can't help you.

To: Knighty Tin who wrote (110944)	2/17/2008 12:50:49 AM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 132070

2. Lower taxes basically benefit the wealthy and the corporations. Lower govt. spending basically disadvantages the middle and lower classes. Geez, it's not like the gap isn't already huge and growing every year without a turboboost from these class warfare ideas. Lower taxes aren't class warfare, your not attacking anyone. High taxes are class warfare. Lower taxes and spending help the upper and middle classes, and at worst don't help the lower classes, they don't disadvantage them. Its not doing something against them, at worst its doing less for them. In any case in at least the very long run lower taxes and spending help the lower class as well through the extra economic growth you get from reducing the burden of government.