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Politics : The Environmentalist Thread -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (20081)	2/5/2008 3:03:28 PM
From: Thomas A Watson	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

In general those who worship the global warming gods do no have any ability to view the extremely complex to them format of a PDF. Well babbling liars need some excuse to fake never ending ignorance. Anyway for those who wish to see Mann Hockey stick garbage versus the applications of honest scientific methods. This gif is only 25k as the text is so small I did not shrink it. I also annotated it with the steps and/or applications used to create and annotate the gif file.

To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (20081)	2/6/2008 4:54:40 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 36917

Thanks for posting that. I either hadn't seen it or had forgotten it.

To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (20081)	2/6/2008 9:36:13 PM
From: neolib	Respond to of 36917

You don't appear to have read the Wegman report. Both M&M and Wegman have plotted graphs correcting Mann's errors. Uh?? Did you read it? I failed to find any graph claiming to be a corrected version of Mann's graph in the Wegman report. I failed when I first read it, and I've failed again. So I'm pretty much assuming you are not paying much attention to what you read. The entire report is pretty short, and written at a very elementary level (remember, some dufus Senators where going to read it), and there is a fairly clear description of each graph, although a very poor description of what PCA does and what decentering is (they really didn't care for you to understand that either). I perviously posted the realclimate link which gives a much better discussion of PCA and decentering, but I'm sure it's not what you want to learn. Oh well, ignorance is bliss. EDIT: So to repeat, WEGMAN DID NOT PUBLISH ANY CORRECTED GRAPH OF MANNS TEMP RECONSTRUCTON. ANY CONFUSION?

To: Alastair McIntosh who wrote (20081)	2/8/2008 1:33:57 AM
From: maceng2	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 36917

Re: We judge this to be a good policy when public health and also when substantial amounts of monies are involved, for example, when there are major policy decisions to be made based on statistical assessments. In such cases, evaluation by statisticians should be standard practice. This evaluation phase should be a mandatory part of all grant applications and funded accordingly Did anyone double check the figures and facts before we invaded Iraq? Hmmmmmmmmmm, maybe some of these "judgements" are based on political considerations only. Where is the risk analysis of doing nothing regarding the environment??